Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition List Analysis: Zengage’s T’au 2000pts

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Tv1Apple
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Tv1Apple

38:09 I’m under the freaking table ???

Ernesto Schmidt-Mumm
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Ernesto Schmidt-Mumm

Army list links aren’t working for me :/

Thomas Sierp
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Thomas Sierp

Cheers lads 🙂

Jonathan Firth
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Jonathan Firth

I love my breachers but I’d only ever run them as T’au sept, for two reasons. First, overwatch on a 5+ from the pulse blaster is pretty scary, but more importantly is the Darkstrider synergy. He fires an accurate markerlight, then gives them +1 to wound, then let’s them fall back and still shoot. I tend to run one squad with him in a Devilfish, with the rest of my troops as standard fire warriors, and try to take out elite infantry with them.

Justin Soli
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Justin Soli

The data slate links don’t work.

Iron_Raider18
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Iron_Raider18

So now breachers and Firewarriors are 7 pts each and the main weapon is free, so 70 pts for 10, take the pulse pistol, 80 pts. Plus markerlight is 83 pts. Now practically every other unit in the codex has the wording “may take up to” when it comes to drones and I believe this was the wording that the breachers had in the codex so this is likely a typo or oversight and might be faq’d. If it’s not, then I’m runnning them with a fireblade and aun’shi (with -1 leadership to enemies relic). Drive to enemy assault unit… Read more »

Danny Aland
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Danny Aland

Only bit I’m going to disagree with is the ion raker over fusion collider. Completely stock, I agree fusion collider is more effective against vehicles, with buffs from stratagems/warlord traits and marker lights, in my humble opinion the ion raker is the more efficient choice across the board.

Nice tactical and overview of Tau, I do have a small group of models but I’m really trying to concentrate on other projects, this didn’t help!

Logan Towers
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Logan Towers

I like the idea behind this list. My gaming group doesn’t play 2k points often though. So I made a smaller 1500 (exactly) point version of Lawrence’s revamped list. I have a bunch of Tau in boxes awaiting my attention as I’m currently finishing up my Tyranid army. I think this list will be the basis for what I build and paint first for my Tau army. Any feedback would be helpful. === Vior’la – Battalion === Cadre Fireblade – puretide Cadre Fireblade – Warlord (Academy Luminary) 12 FWs (one is Shas’ui) 10 FWs (one is Shas’ui) 10 FWs (one… Read more »

Kevin Matthew
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Kevin Matthew

Great list analysis as usual gents! I am particularly interested in the Spider’s list as it seems quite deadly. I would only change out one of the fusion cold star commanders for the high-yield burst cannon + two burst cannon with ATS load out since I feel in the current set up hoard armies may give some trouble, even with the core of fire warriors and fish spraying out close to 150 str 5 shots in optimal range. Adding in another 16 str 5 @ -1 ap on a nice mobile platform helps the list IMO. This frees up points… Read more »

Stephen Abdallah
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Stephen Abdallah

I hate you, Lawrence, for dropping the glorious Breachers. But I must admit, the mechanised Devilfish Rifle Strike Team is very interesting. I am generally a 50 Fire Warriors player, so this is intriguing… Plus preemptive charging with those Devilfish (a la Drukhari) is a great way to knock the wind out of an assault army. I am super stoked for this new T’au army of yours, I’m excited for all the new TaCtiCs we’re going to see.

Ghislain Vallieres
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Ghislain Vallieres

Sorry my English is not at the best I hope u going to understating what I’m saying lol. U just need 1 guardian drone for all ur breachers team (effect all breacher team at 3 inch). Steathsuite or better in 6 man team because u can use hot blooded stratagem (Vior’la) ” there are infantry” or use mirror image with the ghostkeel to get them more close if u wan to be at fusion range. Coldstar commander I love it with 1xhigh-output burst cannon(I Know it not competitif) 2xfusion and 1x shield gen, u make it ur warlord with Academy… Read more »

Brett Smith
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Brett Smith

hey guys how come the video no longer exists?

DakkaJoe07
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DakkaJoe07

When is this dragon tactica video coming? Its referenced a lot and I’m excited.

I know very little about tau. However have you guys seen the movie equilibrium? The art of the gun kata. This is what I would like to see from tau, gun slinging in combat, fighting hand to hand bashing with pistols and kung fu style point blank shooting while darting into and out of combat. That would make me play tau immediately! If a list like this could be made I would love love love to see it.

Imperial Grunt
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Imperial Grunt

Awesome list analysis, I really like the discussion. I am not going the Fish of Fury/breachers route and will still be running a list based around 2 Y-Tides and 1Riptide because, well, thats what I have 🙂 I am not sold on Ghostkeels yet. They look really cool and the minus to hit is useful but the army-wide 4 BS really effects their damage output in the end. (On a side note its really too bad all the battlesuits did not get a 3+ BS in the new codex, that would have made crisis suits and ghostkeels much better). I… Read more »

Gary
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Gary

Vectored Maneuvering Thrusters wouldn’t be an option with the Vior’la Sept, Im afraid. It’s T’au only

BobbyG
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BobbyG

Thanks guys, great analysis and can’t wait to see that Tau army 😉

Rutsy
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Rutsy

I run a similar Vior’la army so this was great to get some tips, love it. Can’t wait to see the studios Tau army..

Nathaniel monge
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Nathaniel monge

Hey TT team. Was just wondering if the list tactica that explains what all the different list types is still coming out or if I missed it. Keep it up you guys are the best at what you do!

Erik Tasker
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Erik Tasker

CAN YOU LOOK AT MY LIST

Luke Johnson
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Luke Johnson

Awesome video guys, and some great insight into helping me with my own lists. So thanks for that 🙂 Can’t lie I’ve been out of the loop somewhat with WH40k until early this year having given up playing some … 15 years ago. But with friends picking it up again Tau have always interested me and that Toga wearing lunatic have sold it and I’m slowly building a solid collection, though I have a long way to go before understanding the nuances of the army in the fullest. That said I can’t help but feel Vior’la is one of the… Read more »

Tony Molinari
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Tony Molinari

Hey guys, still loving the list analysis series, keep em’ coming. Do you guys think the breacher teams can be made more competitive by taking a darkstrider and an ethereal? After all, the guardian drones are only 8 points, adding a marker drone for 10 points isn’t a big deal as you need marker support regardless of what troops you’re running, and the darkstrider + ethereal combo is filling out your mandatory HQ slots. Adding the ability to fall back and still shoot in a 6″ bubble can really power up units with shorter range guns no? We all know… Read more »

Shane
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Shane

Sac’ea detachment with 3 firesite marksmen and a fireblade – hitting on 2s and 3s with a reroll every time they shoot from the sept trait is a cheeky little reliable marker light source along with the stratagem, cheap and an extra command point

Gage Benji Collins
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Gage Benji Collins

Hi team! Let me start by just giving out a massive thanks! Never dreamed i would get a list review, with all the great one’s out there. I appologize for the point values in there, i never intended to pay for or use the pulse pistols battlescribe at the time let me take them for free. The guardian drone rules as written i was also un aware of. battlescribe lets you take it on its own. Both your lists are amazing. Bone yours was great and stuck more too what i had…. but Spider’s list and argument just tips it… Read more »

Aaron Berezowski
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Aaron Berezowski

very interesting i’m still not sold of fish of fury myself just bring more fire warriors instead of the fish in small squads and make people really have to work to remove them. i dunno. only weakness i see to running the fusion ghost keels is if by some chance you loose all your fire warriors and the fish pop or w.e you have zero anti infantry i mean in all reality your only bringing 114 str 5 shots relying on a 4+ ballistic skill in a very easy to kill package just bring three brigades with like 12 units… Read more »

Calum Rowan
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Calum Rowan

Great list analysis guys! I too weep for my poor poor grey knights, but hey, my T’au finally have a codex! One thing I really want you guys to maybe try in a list at some point is a “Crisis Nuke”. I know that Crisis are still a bit over costed at the moment, but when you actually stop and look at the most improved weapon in the codex, the mighty Cyclic Ion Blaster, it makes them absolutely deadly. The theory behind the crisis nuke is that you have a team of 3-4 Farsight Enclaves Crisis suits with triple Cyclic… Read more »

Jamie Birse
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Jamie Birse

Can you guys take a look at my list?

Marcus Creaghan
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Marcus Creaghan

I don’t really have any desire to play Tau, but these vids are so useful for just basic list building skills. Well done as usual guys! And kudos on keeping up such a crazy content output!

Robe
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Robe

Awesome been waiting for one of these, just as I’m sitting down to paint my Y’Vahra too 🙂 The fish of fury thematic with the T’au is really cool and probably one of the more competitive choices so glad to hear you guys chat about Zengage’s list even if he doesn’t intend to build it. Great video again though guys for me its always good to hear these discussions

Mike Jello-Sky
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Mike Jello-Sky

Don’t even mention GK… I weep for them. finally sold mine I was so frustrated with GW. Ok, T’au. To be honest, I don’t like the devilfish idea. I’d rather have an air-wing detachment full of bombers for less points and WAY more anti-infantry damage. Plus, with the new seeker missile rules, they pump out a lot of death for 170pts? If you’re running a gunline, I think Tau sept is key. overwatch on 5s and 6s is crazy. Triple-tapping with a cadre and getting a 6up fnp with an ethereal… there’s 2 battalions right there. From what I’ve read,… Read more »

Linus Eklund
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Linus Eklund

Excellent discussion, I was a bit disheartened by the power of the codex compared to other, but let´s see what the “March” faq brings!

A question; why no love for the kroot? I found their cheap screening ability to be excellent together with their free 7″ move before the first turn.

Aztek
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Aztek

New year long subscriber. Really loving the work you guys are putting out! And not to hurt anyone’s feelings, but you two are my favorite ones to watch. Cheers!

Γιάννης Ανδρεόπουλος
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Γιάννης Ανδρεόπουλος

Well actually I think its a proper picture to welcome the viewers in a tau codex review so i moved it here 😛comment image