Warhammer 40,000 Tactica Report: Drukhari vs Nurgle Daemons 2000pts

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Anders Jeppesen
Anders Jeppesen

Can you do a test next time and have Bone roll the translucent red dice and Spider rolls the black “chaos” dice? Just for fun. Or if you are in a game where Lawrence is rolling his usual suspiciously good rolls, then have Bone use the same dice.

andrew keeling
andrew keeling

Hey guys, trying to learn some drukhari lists but i cant seem to work out the tree detachments…. it seems you have 6 troops and 2 hq in one then the doom seer but whats in the blackheart detachment please?

Khyz0r
Khyz0r

I think Bone forgot his Epidemius Tally of Pestilence. In Turn 2 he had killed 2 units in turn 1, so all Nurgle Daemons should of been re-rolling 1’s without the need of the Daemon Princes being in aura range. Also I think you overuse Smite with the Nurgle units. Without a doubt you should be using Miasma of Pestilence for -1 to hit on a blob of Plaguebearers. I also feel Virulent of Blessings is a much better choice than another Smite too. Plaguebearers are not strong in combat, so keeping them alive with -2 to hit and 4++… Read more »

Cgates642
Cgates642

May be an odd question. Where did you get the heads for the Kabal Warriors?

E . Double E
E . Double E

Might votes for Mandrakes. Things you don’t see often on the tournament circuit is what catches people off guard and actually forces them to think or even underestimate. If people see Ravagers it’s like they almost default to a strategy on what to do with them.

Rob Pickin
Rob Pickin

Lawrence, your wind surfing Doom seer conversion is awesome!

Cgates642
Cgates642

How could we make this Drukari list into 1750?

Shaun
Shaun

Great tactical battle report guys! Love seeing the Drukhari again 😀 Lawrence I think Flayed Skull is the way to go, the re-rolls on the fly vehicles combined with the extra movement are crutch in my opinion!!

Jacob Lindaman
Jacob Lindaman

You boys should think about incorporating a nice box to roll in to. Something not too large with good contrast 😀

T.J. Collier (OKnights112)
T.J. Collier (OKnights112)

All I know is I do not want to fight either one of those lists.

Lawrence you should wait a play a couple of more test games with the list. I can’t wait to see the Tau list Bone is going to have.

Mar Tin
Mar Tin

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slag
slag

Would love to see you guys do a bat-rep using your knights as renegade knights, with maybe some deathguard or chaos marines supporting them. I searched all over youtube and could literally only find 2 battle reports from someone using the renegade knight rules.

GerManticore
GerManticore

Interesting game, but an Archon of Flayed Skulls does not grant re-roll 1s to a Voidraven of Black Heart. (45 minutes in).

The dangers of mixing sub-factions 🙂

slag
slag

Where are your alternate kabalite heads from? These are the only dark eldar i’ve seen that i liked because they look so much better than the cone heads.

John Barber
John Barber

I do think a tree would have helped you too Bone, because it’s not just the fact that it makes you faster, it also gives your Plaguebearers slightly more resilience with a 4+ armour save (because they gain +2 cover). As to your Thousand Sons, I think the list looked good on paper, but I don’t think they really synergized with the rest of your force very well, although that could just be the benefit of hindsight. The only thing it really helped the rest of your force on was Death Hex, and while that *is* an awesome power, it… Read more »

Magiceffect
Magiceffect

“I think out of 10 games nurgle wins this 1 time.” Why play it then? It’s clearly not a practice for bone for the lvo. It’s a practice for the spider. The best practice is going second vs bad match ups.

Magiceffect
Magiceffect

Bone, warp surge is important. As well as the other strat for rerolls 1s on disgustingly resilient. You could try and bait the vect with either for the other.

Forcing his 4 cp vect is important you’ll win the cp game.

Going first to do nothing than psychic defense is fine.

John Doe
John Doe

Not vecting that Ahrimans charge T1… T_T

Robert Martinez
Robert Martinez

I’m going to LVO as well.

I hope I play one of you in my games, it be badass. I will have no mercy. WAAAAGGGGHHHHH

DMvdH
DMvdH

Spider, I feel like flyers in general are not the best in itc, because of the enclosed ruins rule. They’re usually quite expensive and can be mitigated quite easily on FLG boards. The bombers give me pause though, as dishing out those mortal wounds is pretty good. If it turns out you cannot bomb enemy units in the ruins than it’s a whole other story, ditch them as fast as possible.The reason I think you can still bomb units in the ruins is because of the fact mortars can shoot out of them, which is also weird. Also, since this… Read more »

kyle brown
kyle brown

I too play dark eldar, but I have a haemonculus covens only army which I have kind of lost love with in 8th when they got really good and everyone plays them. Lawrence have you thought about replacing the voidraven with 3 units of haywire scourges and a CP farm archon? Its about 40pts more I think. I obviously would add more grotesques cause I love them and create what y gaming group has called the “ShivMaster”. Coven of the Twelve warlord with Master Nemesine, flensing blade and icor injector. Hes cheap and can kill nearly any character in a… Read more »

Chris Wright
Chris Wright

I think mandrakes are great. They are a little expensive, but they do so much. They throw heaps of dice at the opponent between shooting and combat, they deepstrike, and they are deceptively hard to kill wil the neg 1 and the invuln and the fnp.

The Vynlanstus
The Vynlanstus

i think Bone would have done alot better if grauty was on the field as well

Julien Le Douaron
Julien Le Douaron

Bone, a couple pointers when you run the Nurrgle plaguebearers spam:

1) if you can take first turn, do so, in this game I would have tried to seize; powering up those plaguebearer units is clutch, Miasma for extra -1 to hit, warpsurge for 4++ warptime them forward to solidly anchor yourself in the center and screen your sorcerers

2) I feel you could have used more Nurrgle and daemon strats? I feel like you were missing some tools.

Jacobi
Jacobi

What buffs did Epidemius give?

Jacobi
Jacobi

The secondary “Behind enemy lines” is scored at the start of your turn, not the end, right?

Kristian
Kristian

The bombers may have been slightly underwhelming, but that is to be expected when playing against something that has a 5+ FnP-style save. Against virtually any other army they will cause massive havoc.

You could drop the flyers for Lance Ravagers instead. That’ll give you some heavy hitters.

And sorry, but I can’t help feeling that Harlequin Skyweavers would be awesome in this list as allies, in a cheap battalion which will also give you more CPs

Chris
Chris

Hello Spider, Mandrakes are really cool, I like them a lot. Please try them out in more competetive games. Here is my list advice for you and I think that you will like it. A Black Heart brigade! 3 Archons w huskblade and blaster 6×5 warriors 4 with blaster 2 without (you always keep some behind for taking objectives anyway) 3×5 Mandrakes 3×5 Haywire Scourges 3 Dissie ravager 6 Splinter cannon venoms 1 doomseer. The list comes with a lot more CPs, with anti tank haywire, you keep the mandrakes (who can also embark in empty venoms if you like)… Read more »

Will Hancox
Will Hancox

Why are deathwatch a counter to Talos? Teach me!

Nicholas Redford
Nicholas Redford

Bone you should try casting the miasma of pestilence power to give 1 squad of the plagebearers an additional -1 to hit (making them -2). Plus you could for 2CP give a plaguebearer unit a 4+ invul for one of Lawrence’s shooting phases.

James Ellis
James Ellis

Great Battle report, Bones face on some of those Spider rolls bless him! If you dropped the flyers could you get some Harlequin bikers in? Lethal at vehicles and pretty dammed good at clearing troops especially doomed ones?

Martin Jensen
Martin Jensen

Lawrence, when are we going to see you using wyches or *gasp* hellions? See it as a challenge. I know you want those sweet models on your table. To the point at hand, I love that you are using mandrakes. They are easily my favourite unit in the codex, so flexible, so gorgeous and so deadly. My only complaint is that you dont have enough of them. Max them out! Please keep them in your list, if nothing else than to do something other than the tried and true tournament lists. Regarding Craftworld allies… psykers no less. The Spider is… Read more »

Peter Andreasson
Peter Andreasson

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@bone how come there was no heroic intervention here in spiders turn one.

Nipitas x
Nipitas x

Hey Spider 🙂 Everytime i see your Void Spiders in Action, i wonder why you don’t include Scourges into your lists. Is it because you think they’re not good enough?
I really like 2×5 Scourges with Haywire, they really hurt 🙂

Tom Capper
Tom Capper

i’d have gone for virrulet blessing on one of the princes instead of smite when attacking the planes. would have done more than the smites as would wound on 2s with 5s doing 3d and 6s doing 5d per hit on the plane. would almost certainly do more than the smite could.

Simon
Simon

Could you please make an app with catchphrases for the shop? Lawrence saying: “good News everybody! ”
B-Bone with his deadpan: mavelous.
(maybe Even a seal serenade).
And beard…. Maybe beard gets hus own dlc?

BobbyG
BobbyG

1h31 – Oh yes, not like this ^^, Mandrakes “Too expensive” HE SAYS

BobbyG
BobbyG

Cough Cough Cough – No -1 anymore after the first Venom fired Lawrence !

Marcello Genovese
Marcello Genovese

Gona be nurglings EVERYWHERE at LVO 2019 lol. The ability to just deploy into those box buildings from start is way to powerful.

Marcello Genovese
Marcello Genovese

My biggest concern for your list lawrence is against orks. You really need a test game against a few tournament build ork lists. lootas and mech guns are a big issue. Agents of vect is nice and all, but it won’t prevent pregame strats and tellyporta platform can hide lootas until turn two, at which point more dakka and showin off is going to wrack up a lot of dead airplanes. Again, pick one to cancel. It could be worse if they are in a wagon instead. I think DE have the tools, but it’s a rough ride lol. Especially… Read more »

Louis Thomson-Gregg
Louis Thomson-Gregg

I have also been thinking, its a massive logistical pain, but maybe next time Bone should consider interlacing his plaguebearer units so both units would need to be killed to break down a character screen, it didn’t make too much difference for this game, but it also means the units cover much more of the board, rather than the areas they are deployed in.

Brandon Kieffer
Brandon Kieffer

Bone, while it’s true the Sword of power goose stepped off a cliff, I’m sure Beard wouldn’t mind you borrowing the Axe of Power.

Kellen
Kellen

I’d change the void ravens to razorwings and find the points for 3 ravagers with dissies on everything. Even if that costs you a squad and a venom or two against more mechanized lists poison is useless and even weak against anything with a 3+ save. Having 17 dissies with a doomseer can put a hurt on anything. The choice between flayed skull and black heart is tricky because the ignore cover is huge again playing against anything in power armor because of cover. Keep the mandrakes tho most people don’t even know what they do it’s a great element… Read more »

EImaj234

Bone! Love the report! could you have heroically intervened the bomber with your demon prince? Not sure how it works with flyers.

Byron Livingstone
Byron Livingstone

Warpsurge on plaguebearer’s is really good.

Marcello Genovese
Marcello Genovese

@ 1:02:00 bone definitely should have rolled his charge, he can stay an inch away from the bomber and if he kills if consolidate on that objective gaining him hold more. That was a bit of a brain fart.

Marcello Genovese
Marcello Genovese

Sorry I am commenting so much already, but you have to remember frontline is hosting, and they will be uising their own terrain. Generally speaking they like to place two large solid buildings in the center of the table to break up firing lanes. If they continue that trend and I don’t see why they would not, your going to have to prepare to face lots of silly crap like custodes or bulgryn playing jack in a box. Your really should test a game with a table as similar to their own as you can.

Marcello Genovese
Marcello Genovese

I actually agree with you big L. I like grotesques more then talos spam, but either way the army gets hard countered to thousand sons as well. There are just too many things that will shut that build down. I like taking each of those to compliment my DE lists, but kabalite spam is more consistent against more enemies and wins the mirror which your sure to see.

Marcello Genovese
Marcello Genovese

I really hope some git takes 30 khorne berserkers from alpha legion and just scouts them into cetral solid buildings before the round starts. Come at me bro. Can’t shoot them and they charge outside without worry of overwatch, heck if they occupy all the space you can’t even go in to get them, thats if your crazy enough to want to. Good lord the ramifications of that terrain rule are massive. Deepstrike a blood letter bomb into a building and charge out with no overwatch. Fill one with hive guard, lord what a silly idea.

DLO
DLO

New subsciber here, sorry for the dumb question but what is the difference between tactica reports and battle reports? Are tactica reports just essentially “try hard” battles while battle reports are more casual? Love the content btw