Warhammer 40,000 Tactica Report: Aeldari vs Imperium 2000pts

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Benjamin Chia
Benjamin Chia

Thanks for this. Would like to see more Tactica reports and maybe more ITC Champions missions and analysis for competitive players

George Fava
George Fava

“But it is such a demoralizing army to play against [eldar]…and I play tau” – Bone

Truer words have never been uttered on this channel.

Question…do you think Bone’s turn 1 would’ve been much different, and changed the course of the game, if there hadn’t been as much LOS blocking terrain? Sure there’s still lots of minus-to-hit trickery, but if the baneblade, knight, and tank commanders could actually see a few targets maybe it could have slowed Lawrence’s list down just a hair. Or i’m taking crazy pills and nothing changes.

Stephen Boxall
Stephen Boxall

I’m so excited for this next game because I’m going to an ITC event on Saturday and my first match is against Tau with my Eldarquins. What I loved in this game was the use of LOS first turn. If I can abuse that and only have to take SMS at -1 across the army (2 max units of Alaitoc Shining Spears and Skyweavers, 12 of them) turn 1, I think I could do well. I’m interested to see how you pull off a first turn against Bones Tau.

Yann Head
Yann Head

Yet another very informative tactica… I do wonder how the game would have played if Bone had used 3cp to raise the Helverin turn one….

Michał Kościelski
Michał Kościelski

I assume it’s been already mentioned but why didn’t Bone issue any orders to the Tank Commanders first turn? Should’ve poped smokes and fired, or at least pop the smokes. Also the Lightning Fast Reflexes was quite predictable, should’ve targeted both of the CHEs in the corner, one with the big cannon and the other with lascannons to at least have a shot at one of them, maybe cripple them 😉

Bjarke Pedersen
Bjarke Pedersen

Since Lawrence hasn’t been made into a meme yet, I thought I’d chip in with this
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Darren McKernan
Darren McKernan

I find it very interesting, as a guard player, how unfamiliar with the guard both Lawrence and Bone are. There are so many little rules and abilities that they fail to employ. I’m not just talking about stratagems, as I know they save them in the soup for their large units, but I do feel there are stratagems that they should utilize that they do not. “Jury Rigging”, “Crush Them”, and “Take Cover” to name a few. It is more the lack of proper orders or maximizing their units special rules. Tallarn infantry can advance and fire, tallarn tanks can… Read more »

Interrogator-Chaplain Gerhard
Interrogator-Chaplain Gerhard

Query: at 34:20, a Helvering is shooting a venom, hits 5 times, wounds 4 times, and 2 shots are saved, for a total of 6 damage. After that two 6s are rolled for the Black Heart save, and you say you’ve got 4 wounds left at 35:25. Since a Venom has 6 wounds, you should’ve been at 2 wounds left.

Is that an oversight or did I miss somehing?

Craig Leslie Gardiner
Craig Leslie Gardiner

Just a query, how did you manage to deploy the helvirins at each end of the battle field? It says the are a squadron when you deploy and have to be deploied 6″ from each other but then run as individuals or have I missed something, just asking as I have just got 2 helvirins and wanted to know if I am reading the rules wrong, enjoied the rep as always.

MadMartigan
MadMartigan

Really enjoyed this Tactica. Lawrence thinks he’s boring and I’m over here listening and learning. Silly Spider……..

Chadd De Las Casas
Chadd De Las Casas

Lawrence seems unusually intimidated in these battle reports by heavy duty Astra Militarum lists, when they’re hitting just shy of Ork.

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

I am not a high level player myself so i really enjoy these where you guys take the power listsnand explain why doing what you do.

Aaron L Brosnan
Aaron L Brosnan

What I find to be hilarious about this edition is that due to the negative to hot modifiers everywhere Orks have actually become a very viable shooting army.

I play both Ork and Imperial Guard and I find my Orks will out shoot my Imperial Guard every time. The real bonus is that the Ork can also rock it in the Assauly Phase and when running Evil Sunz they are probably a lot faster than Eldar.

It’s nice to see them finally feel competitive after playing them for 20+ years.

P.S. Bone Queensland FTW.

mark
mark

Got to watch a lot of Lawrence’s game vs Dark Angels as my game got finished early. I can tell you, his dice are not always hot, he had some miserable rolls and one damn Dark Talon would just not die!! It was good to see the ebb and flow of the game though. Didn’t get to watch much of Bone play, although he was behind me during this same game. I’ll be curious to hear how Lawrence dropped his last 2 games and which aspect of his list he thinks didn’t pull it’s weight during the event.

AquitaineUA
AquitaineUA

The best tank commander with punisher cannon for me is the vostroyan ones because they have a stratagem that give them a +1 to shoot, and of course 6 extra inches to the range.

Icarus
Icarus

1:31:49
I wonder what @B-Bone was trying to say when Lawrence rolled that 11 inch charge ??

Icarus
Icarus

Did you not have double Protect/Jinx
on your Warlocks rather than Quicken/Restrain?
Am I mistaken or were you cheating?

Rutsy
Rutsy

Interesting to see such powerful lists clash, also loved the Sultan hope it returns with the Tallarn.
Poor Bone don’t feel too bad about the cherub nickname and Spiders incessant bullying bud, its all done with love, you know you’re the TTT hero.

Joseph Tannehill
Joseph Tannehill

Hey spider the five that wounded the helvern @1:28:27 in the video is a die that was sitting under your venom for quite awhile.

Andreas Rehn
Andreas Rehn

To be honest, if they played this game over and over another 10 times, I still can’t imagine Bone ever winning it with that list 🙁

UnLachy
UnLachy

So talented; both a cherub AND a tailor!

Fenix
Fenix

Hey guys. Reptilian Overlord Miniatures make some Tallarn style torso’s with heads.. would be perfect replacements for the standard mortar crew… just so you know, ya know?

CreativeName

You guys know how Cadians have a trait where if they stay still they get to re-roll ones? Tallarn Infantry have a trait too. It let’s them advance and shoot. It’s funny that you both emphasize that since they advanced that they can’t do anything. I bet it’s because you two prob think the trait is move and shoot heavy weapons without a penalty like the vehicles. I hope Bone wins the LVO

FrankyMcShanky .
FrankyMcShanky .

I’m a lucky duck!
You’re a lucky duck!
We’re all a lucky duck!

Luke
Luke

I do believe that in the final turn the second exarch fired twice on the Baneblade

Altansar
Altansar

Spider in turn 3 you only cast Doom with your Farseer was there a reason that you didn’t smite / use Executioner?

Rune Kappel
Rune Kappel

Concerning the Mandrakes Locking the Guardsman i close combat. The Guardsmen could just have moved up the next floor in the ruin – then the locked guy could have moved away. This is one of the reasons it can be a good idea the deploy in ruins. You can much easier get out.

Reilly De Metz
Reilly De Metz

Gotta say, you were very liberal with your flyer facing. This being a tactica and all.

Viktor
Viktor

Also what do you think about Ældari Rangers?

Viktor
Viktor

Oh such a fine-tuned list you brought, Lawrence. Frankly, I don’t understand why you keep on downplaying it against this particular Imperial soup list, there is just not enough dakka that can reliably hit. All BS4+ armies are going to cry salty seas of tears facing Ældari when they just cannot hit those 10 Ynnari Dark Reapers that are -4 to hit or another unit that ducked into LOS blocking cover using Fire and Fade. And this is going to be demoralizing. T’au are better than most BS4+ armies just by the simple virtue of marker lights that at least… Read more »

Sarah Soden
Sarah Soden

Good luck to everyone from TTT

Broken saint
Broken saint

Great batrep guys, it pretty much showed all the strengths of Eldar soup and good use of tactics to stunt a fairly scary looking Imperium soup. Was a bit more on the interesting side than fun but I’m super psyched for round 3! Let the serious but not super serious practice battle of champions commence!!!

Kieran Barnes
Kieran Barnes

“BAAAAYNBLADE!!!”

amirite?

anyone?

Magiceffect
Magiceffect

Lawrence,
Reread seer council you don’t need to elect it before you roll. You can active it if you’re 1 short lol.

rynar
rynar

B-Bone, why didn’t you charge mandrakes with your Baneblade using The crush them! strategem?

James
James

Some cheating in the final turn there BBone! That Baneblade dropped all the way to 2 wounds before the last Hunter fired and inflicted another 6 damage..
Best of luck at the Open gents, have thoroughly enjoyed both these tactica games and look forward to the third! Cracking stuff.

Chippen
Chippen

What drove the decision to go away from Ravagers? Or if any other viewers out there with a good memory remember in which video that was discussed, I’d appreciate the opportunity to hear that.

felix crab
felix crab

Think you guys really underestimate how entertaining these proper tacticas are. I feel like some in the past were a bit wet, its great to see you guys trying hard with nasty lists and talking about the game. Allot of us dont play 40k at this level and i think this is what most of us want to see from the tactica series
Really rooting for you guys at the lvo! Have a great time

Sean Mayson
Sean Mayson

I have a suit jacket that’s a little loose around the waist and I was wondering if I sent it in Ben could apply his talents and tailor it for me? haha

nab
nab

Well, at least I’ve heard someone say a Baneblade is competetive, before playing a game where it cant hit anything, thus displaying why it’s dead in the meta. But it was a funny thing to see.

Will be intresting to see how many turns it took to wipe bones Tau.

My bet is on Eldar winning LVO easy.

Cheers

Danny Aland
Danny Aland

Was going to say it but you picked it up anyway, with the spider list, dance around the backfield with the flyers, grab objectives with the gun boats and just score them points! A knight at-2 or more to hit, dosent kill very much at all, so you can practically ignore them.

I know you say Ynnari is broken; it absolutely can be; it wouldn’t benefit this list in the slightest.

Looking forward to the final fight!

Toby Proctor
Toby Proctor

Yes guys great game as always! Best of luck at the LVO
Toby; fellow drama school nerd

Sevenleefclover
Sevenleefclover

Good luck this weekend gentlemen!….remember, if it was a game of percentages we wouldn’t love rolling the dice so much.

Matt
Matt

The Spider: “I’m not confident and I think I’ll lose.”
X-Doubt

B-Rad
B-Rad

In the champion match (which has technically already happened) hope Bone can get some flyers down then pop some transports to strand those troops. If he gets corned I think this list will just eat him up. I can see the Hazard suits and Mandrakes counter punching each other.

B-Rad
B-Rad

Spider has convinced me that my next army is aeldari.