Warhammer 40,000 Battle Report: Genestealer Cult vs Death Guard 2000pts

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Mike
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Mike

The battle reports with The Spider and the bone are by far my favorite! Banter is so awesome

Tomasz Baczewski
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Tomasz Baczewski

@benjaminbonar:disqus Well rock saws are -4AP not -2 and acolytes have rending claws so on 6 to wound AP is -4 – not that this matter much on this game but for future. Add Swarmlord to make it 2k and GSC soup is done – 2x 20 genes are in combat turn1 🙂

Dan Bishop
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Dan Bishop

Jokes are funny until they get old. This one is stale.

Peter Almo
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Peter Almo

I feel like I keep coming back to this conclusion, and it’s that the train has kind of left the station on “getting all the good stuff without any of the bad.” Allies or Soups are here to stay, the vast majority of the 40k universe can do it: Eldar/Deldar/Harlequins, Marines/Militarum/Sisters/Knights/Custodes/AdMech/GK, Chaos/Knights/Daemons, and now Tyranids/Cultists. At this point, Necrons, Orks, and Tau are the only armies left out in the cold. GW is clearly not going to look at three armies and declare, “all these other factions must suffer so that it’s fair for these three.” I think the only… Read more »

DLO
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DLO

Lawrence’s exasperation when it comes to nick naming models is almost akin to the look of his opponent’s when he rolls 7 6’s on 3 dice.

Bone and Beard should just start naming all their characters variations of Lawrence. Like “Here’s Lawry the Plaguecrawler” Perhaps then he will get in the spirit.

<3 the show fellas

Brogre
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Brogre

why no acid maws on the genestealers??????

Sam Shand
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Sam Shand

Just started watching the intro, and have to say Bones character naming is hilarious, and Bones right we only like the naming because it winds Lawrence up soo much. Have you named any of the Drukhari character? think that would cut some deep wounds haha

rynar
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rynar

You have Air, Water, Fire and earth Benders and one Avatar… But even the Avatar can’t bend dice…. Only Lauwrens can, because Lawrence is the Dice Bender 😀

Great report, full of shenanigans. Luv it 😉

Dean Brereton
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Dean Brereton

Great Battle nice to see Death Guard

Tim Smith
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Tim Smith

Bone needed to screen much better tbh. You know GSC will arrive T2 and that Steelers will run up the table, but you castled in a way that you were guaranteed to be surrounded T2…

Dean Brereton
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Dean Brereton

Death to Terry and all silly names, still love you though Bone! Nice to see Death Guard out

Magnus
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Magnus

This is basically every battle my Death Guard has had against Tyranids, summed up using Human actors.

Thomas Brouer
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Thomas Brouer

Pls nerf GSC…. why can they get within 3” after “deepstriking”, but no one else can? If they can, why cant I Warptime after useing the DMC from TS??? Just seems stupid..

Thomas Brouer
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Thomas Brouer

Pls nerf GSC…. why can they get within 3” after “deepstriking”, but no one else can? If they can, why cant I Warptime after useing the DMC from TS??? Just seems stupid..

Bryan Clark
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Bryan Clark

Jesus.

Modulus42B
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Modulus42B

Well that was fairly dramatic. I love the visual of the slow, resilient, inexorable advance of Nurgle fuelled death when, suddenly, cult! Omn nom nom, job done, thanks a million, next planet please.

Looking forward to the Rusted Claw though – I’ve been eyeing them up myself…

Josh
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Josh

Hey guys, where did you get your ruined buildings that aren’t the Games Workshop sector stuff? If you made it yourself what is it made out of? Thanks!

casey mad
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casey mad

Bone! Please keep up with the names. It helps me connect with the model and or, character! Don’t let them take away this like they did the Blade of Power! Claiming it could be interpreted in a certain way. 😉

Josh
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Josh

Hey guys, where did you get your ruined buildings that aren’t the Games Workshop sector stuff? If you made it yourself what is it made out of? Thanks!

Austin Martin
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Austin Martin

Finally tuning back in for some bat reps on demand here, and I think this is probably one of the most exciting looking ones… can’t wait to dig in!

R4zl
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R4zl

Haha! The dice really alternated for you there Bone! 🙂 Lawrence remember that the cult icon gets you re-roll 1s in combat & that 6+ FNP from the iconward. Otherwise a great game and a great example of when it’s polite to not play tactically to actually make it a bit more of a game. 🙂 The point cost for the genestealer cult genestealer is probably explained by all the buffs they can get: They can get: Cult ambush, obviously. The First Curse (1CP), free toxin sacs, adrenal glands or carapace is nothing to sneeze at but you have to… Read more »

Trev
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Trev

Wow, what a battle rep!
First of all, I love the Bob Ross like painting on the backgrounds! Very scenic for such a battle round. If you’re going to get chewed up by the jaws of Kraken or Grand Father Nurgle, better to do it on a lovely looking day.
Great to see the Cults doing well. It was great to see them sweeping across the battle field, very theatrical!
You can see why they would be such a nightmare to face!
Keep up the excellent work! 🙂

James John Stewart
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James John Stewart

Thanks for the great bar rep guys! Also: Goliath trucks are goooooddddd!

Spencer James
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Spencer James

I haven’t watched this game yet but after watching the run through of the GSC list I really don’t think the GSC aspects of it are competitive at all.

The GSC stealers are more expensive I would guess because they can be buffed with a strat and a psychic power and ambush them alongside a load of buffing characters. Is a bit annoying though.

Todd Meilleur
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Todd Meilleur

It could have been worse. Acolytes reroll 1s in the fight phase with their cult icons. Also rock saws are -4 and I think the Spider was playing them as -2. Otherwise great to see the Gsc Tyranid combo play. Can’t wait for the new units in a tactica game.

James Jones
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James Jones

Broodlords have a 12″ synapse so at 47:20 there was no need to spend 2 CP ?

Paul Kidd
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Paul Kidd

Guys you seem to be very black and white with your opinion of the Cult. You’ve got it in your heads that this build of 60+ Hybrids is competitive and as a result not fun to play against…BUUUTTT you are missing out so much from the army. Leman Russ, Chimeras, Brood Brothers, Sentinels, Bikers etc etc. Your opponent won’t be focused on a blowing up troop transports when you are laying down heavy fire from tanks. The reason why I enjoyed playing the Cult back in 2nd edition was you got the best hand to hand (Genestealers) with the best… Read more »

Owl the Molfar
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Owl the Molfar

Thanks for work, pals! So much melee! Now I want to know how the Blood Angels will be vs the Genestealer Cult! And also how The Toga will manage this!

Kevin Bisbing
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Kevin Bisbing

I’ll be really interested to see how GSC perform once you get all the new units. I think with the bikes and characters like the Kelermorph and Jackal Alphus you guys might have more luck with a fluffly list that doesn’t just get blown off the table!

Marcello Genovese
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Marcello Genovese

Great game, the GSC list was really a nid list though. 950 of 1750 spent on kraken is not a GSC list lol. Either way had Bone taken plague spitters on his drones I think he could easily take it. He is a man in love with those darn mowers, I can understand it lol. As a GSC player I need to tell you Lawrence your not using any of the new characters which is a big deal. The jackal alphus is insanely good. She basically auto places 5 marker lights automatically and has a good sniper rifle. You then… Read more »

Sidney McGhee
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Sidney McGhee

towards the genestealer argument of why take cult over nid, its synergy, the characters that can buff them to be way stronger, while they cant get the creeds they still are infantry and have the keyword. this means they can get strenght from beyond, re-roll from primus, buffed by patriarc, bonus from icon ward, and defend your patriarc with unquestioning loyalty. On the other hand Hivefleet stealers really dont synergise well with most of the army or really even their own, they become shocktroops rather than key to victory. This is all my opinion of course.

Andrew Horan
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Andrew Horan

I thought bones list wasn’t the best. The fleshmowers though amazing looking were the least optimal choice against this list. If he had the plaguespitters it would have gone a lot better. 2d6 hits, fall back and do it again. Put them around the warlord now you’re rerolling all wounds too. That alone would have made a huge difference.

All in all it was a good game though Slightly tilted to one side

Adam Varney
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Adam Varney

Can you take Tyranids as your main army with GSC as backup the plan of action being Spam chimera tanks from GSC and use Tyranid Genstealers to ride inside.?

also to edit on this have the Chimera tanks fully equipped with flamers for autohitting. tyranicd/mech?

wallisa2011
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In regards to the end discussion with whether GSC are hard to play fluffy wise. I absolutely agree. I played in a couple of tourneys with a soup and came away pretty well. As soon as I went for a more fluffy cult army. I just got absolutely obliterated off the table in the first few turns to another fluffy army. All of the vehicles are garbage and it’s kinda sad. I am deffo looking forward to it you start doing tacticas for these guys. Maybe some 20 man brood brother tempestor action there please? 😀 Brilliant Battle report as… Read more »

Tazacks
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Tazacks

Liberate tutemet ex Terry

Nikko Villaruz
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Nikko Villaruz

Cult of Myrmidon vs Hive Fleet Myrmidon BatRep to settle the naming debate. The leaders of the Cult have gone on to create false deities and name their star gods silly names and the Broodlord is not happy about it.

Blizz
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Blizz

Derek the Demon Prince vs Melvin the Magus, this is going to be great! 😀

Altansar
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Altansar

They could balance the Genestealers better by making the Ambush a piece of wargear so if you want to be able to ambush them you pay the extra points, if you don’t you don’t. At least that way they are both the same base points of 12.

I think Bone should be allowed to pay a command point and play with a d8 to offset the natural curse by the dice gods that he lives under every day.

slag
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slag

My two favorite armies being played by my two favorite gamers. Someone pinch me, i must be dreaming.
*Also, Melvin the Magus 4 life.

BringOnTheCold
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BringOnTheCold

Yeah I don’t know what the DG can do against that. The mowers really let you down Bone! Maybe PBCs/FBDs with spitters. Then again once the PBCs get tagged it is going down hill. I have seen some other batreps where Blight Lord termis did the business against genestealers. Are you guys working on getting maybe a blob of 10? because I think they really fill in some of the holes that pure DG have in their tactics plan. Well unless we get a couple juicy stratagems in Vigilus 2.

George Bird
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George Bird

I used plague wind once on a full 20 necron warrior unit, didnt get a single six. Haven’t used it since!

Alec Glass
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Alec Glass

Abberrants question – anybody else think (as I sort of do) that Abberrants are arguably just as good under Pauper Princes as Twisted Helix? I feel like the +1 strength from 5 to 6 rarely comes into play (would only matter against T5 and T6 units which are not the most common in any army except for maybe Death Guard? Or is this my misconception?) and while fighting twice is great, it does cost 3CP and is limited to one unit of abberrants per turn whereas if you run them princes they’re re-rolling all of their hit rolls on first… Read more »

Aaron
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Aaron

They should allow larger Tyranid creatures to devour genestealer cultists to regain wounds.

StuartFields
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Only the turn one psychic phase and I am weeping on my desk at Bones rolling for my beloved Death Guard. Hopefully Lawrence will give the Death Guard a run one day so we can see how powerful they can be when someone rolls higher than a 2 lol.

andrew keeling
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andrew keeling

There are a few factors making cult stealers more expensive…..
Cult stealers are supposed to be rarer if u want a fluffy reason u wouldnt really get multiple units with the cult

With psychic powers you can get a unit of 20 stealers to s5 a5 and a garunteed charge with ambush and strats…. thats pretty bonkers!

Its the same reason the brood lord and patriarch are differnt prices despite being essentially the same unit

Matt Mallinson
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Matt Mallinson

Great report as always, bones rolls to start were so cold and Lawrence’s were polar opposite xD

Feel like the gsc was Definately more tuned than the dg list. Do you think the plague splitters would have performed better on the drones for the auto hits in shooting as well as to screen with for gross overwatch?
Would love to see one of the strong blightlord term lists!

Sorry ts an overly long comment and keep up the top notch work ?

Jordan Wilcox
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Jordan Wilcox

another quality report. you guys should play a game where bones rolls are flipped 1s = 6s. might be an easy win for bone tho…

Bulwyf
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Bulwyf

This is the second game in recent games that Bone has taken a fluffy list (this DG list, his non optional Tyranid list previously) while Spider has taken a tactica list (this GSC/Nid combo and Necron previously) and the results speak for themselves. You guys know I love you all and the batreps but could we have some more agreement beforehand on lists? I’m fine if Spider wants to run a really tough build but when the opponent is bringing fun and fluffy it isn’t much fun to play against and sadly to watch. Here’s hoping the next games are… Read more »

nousernameforyou
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nousernameforyou

“It might have been too strong”

It’s almost like taking 60 of one of the Tyranids best unit choices is quite strong lol

Alex Volkov
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Alex Volkov

Boneswords are never gona sound the same to me anymore.