Warhammer 40,000 *NEW CODEX* Battle Report: Iron Warriors vs Imperial Fists 2000pts

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With a massive thanks to Games Workshop, we debut release the all new Chaos Space Marines Codex with a Specialist Detachment from the new Vigilus Ablaze book! To top it off, we also debut our all new studio Primaris army, the Obsidian Dragons!

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zeog zeog
zeog zeog

With that many thousands of new points on the shelves I’m hoping for an apocalypse game soon: )
Any chance coming up? Or are you thinking a new campaign to debut everything?

D.J Kiepura
D.J Kiepura

so how many point are oblitz now? im so confused..

Rob Gibson
Rob Gibson

hey guys, I know we all think daemon engines are a tough sell even after the changes, and I know most people think the maulerfiend will be best, but I have thought about it a lot and I think the defiler will see play, or at least be more interesting than the maulerfiend. 12 more points for the lowest cost, and it still has 7 attacks at str8 or 16, it has smoke launchers so if they are running gunline you can pop those instead of shooting and advance to get closer. It has 2 more wounds, and actually has… Read more »

BigGrim
BigGrim

Once again, Bone and Beard are a joy to watch! Great game fellas and the new Primaris army is GORGEOUS!

Erik Tasker
Erik Tasker

who died?!comment image

Harry Wynn
Harry Wynn

Re: The Daemon engines hitting on 3’s, I know reliability makes the competitive list go round, but if we’re constantly buffing everything and making them all reliable and cheap in pts… I dont know, everything gets kind’ve samey?

Im personally fine with the Daemon engines hitting on 4’s, I’d make them more resilient. Let them regain wounds for every wound they inflict on a 5+ or something. As they feast on souls they keep powering up, which would help keep them on the table and make their hitting reliability less of an issue.

Rabbit Burner
Rabbit Burner

‘Can I have 6?’ – we are in the ‘if you don’t ask you don’t get’ age.
Great to see more Chaos and cant wait til you get the new models in the army.
Great result for Beard 🙂 even though at times it felt like he was rolling D3s instead of D6s! and Bone was channelling his inner Spider at times 😉
Great job as usual guys, great fun and a great watch 🙂

Michael Hansen
Michael Hansen

I love Beards always slightly confused “Do I really look like a guy with a plan?” look, even when things go as “planned”. 😀

Matt Green
Matt Green

You guys costed the oblits at 65points per model, dont you think that is a misprint in the codex2 as they are 110 in the shadow spear codex?(if so beard had about 400points extra on the table, which probably led to such a one sided battle) Also I’m on the fence about havocs because sure they got t5, but you lost the ability to add extra bodies for wounds.

Aaron Wilson
Aaron Wilson

You guys kill me, this is my favoruite battle report you’ve ever done. Genuinly crying with laughter at points, please never stop doing what you’re doing. You’re so bloody good at it.

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

Loving the new primaris army, cannot wait to see what you guys do with it. Is the new shadowspear stuff going to be painted as part of the Obsidian Dragons?
Also as they are your custom chapter are you going to allow a house rule that they can use all the warlord traits or just the generic ones?

Cgates642
Cgates642

I have found 10 man squads seems to just do better.

Cgates642
Cgates642

I love Primaris. Do you think they can be competitive? I play them a lot and have a lot of fun. But I’m trying to see how to make them competitive. I know you all would be the one’s that could do.

Kristian
Kristian

If Daemon Engines could move without the penalty to shoot it would be a huge improvement, just like PotMS.

This one was special. They are always good, but this one was … special <3

Magnus
Magnus

Let’s see how long it takes until GW realize the typo in the codex and put Oblitirators back into the 100+ rage…

They did seem quite tough in this game, but Bone lacked the right weapons to take them down, my Dark Angels would apply 30 Hellblasters to the problem. *sage nod*

Snarftron 9001
Snarftron 9001

Love the new Space Marines! The TT intros don’t Dragon too much so keep em going!

Philip Hargrave
Philip Hargrave

Unsure if this has been mentioned but for bone using the siege breaker cohort the stratagem used was used wrong on the obliterators, you only do the mortal wound on a 6+ against vehicles or buildings, if you were to use it again i would say 6 centurions nothing but bolters and just use that start. its brutal especially buffed through captain with +1 to hit warlord trait, imperial fists start for more shots on bolters, lieutenant, ancient, apothecary etc

B-Rad
B-Rad

That fight phase!!!! The Emperor protects Bone! The Emperor protects!

Michael Countryman
Michael Countryman

Absolutely fantastic battle report, as always!

Solvagon
Solvagon

AAAAh all the DttfE with the Lord Discordant who gets it on fives….

Beard, for the love of God, just give every model a giant flag with “Death to the False Emperor” written on it.

AINZ OAL GOWN
AINZ OAL GOWN

Hey guys! I think tje lord discordant is great, its just forgefiends that are terrible, imagine him with a brass scorpion or, as my list will have, 3 chaos decimators with soulburner petards! Hitting on 2s and each hit is a mortal wound? Amazing!

Mike Jello-Sky
Mike Jello-Sky

Wow! Obliterators huh? Nasty…
I think it would have been a little bit closer if you used the points for the repulsors somewhere else. Those things aren’t good enough to make it past turn 1.
Beautiful army though. Great way to showcase them!
Can’t just let the iron warriors win like that. I think the GK need to be called in with some assassins and a Gallant! 🙂

Good batrep fellas!

Modulus42B
Modulus42B

Excellent job guys – truly a babtism of fire for the Dragons though! 9 Obliterators!? That would have been punishing last week! Question: do you think the points drop in the codex could be a typo, and it should be what the Shadowspear box says it is…?

Micha Ben Toby
Micha Ben Toby

Loving “Brother Jazzhands” the redemptor ^_^

IIHouseOfGeekII
IIHouseOfGeekII

Laughed so much at the sieze initiative a little wee came out. Rofl!

lewis waller
lewis waller

Great BatRep again guys, definelty agree with FS_12 on the Repulsors and you guys they are need for improvement to make them more durable.
Also any idea when the studio Ork will be arriving.
Any ideas on a non klan Ork colour scheme

Paul Rimmer
Paul Rimmer

Not only the best content out there for 40k, but the best last laughs as well! Thank you sirs 🙂

batthemadbat
batthemadbat

Fellas! You know, I really love your content (I’m paying money for it) but could you please, please, please consider screaming a bit less. It get’s really annoying and feels like watching a bunch of monkeys having a tantrum sometimes. Banter is well and good but if you really have a sharp line you don’t need to scream it.

Kieran Barnes
Kieran Barnes

absolutely gorgeous army, fellas! any chance we can see them use the new crimson fists rules? possibly against the big orc reinforcements on the way

Quasistellar
Quasistellar

Redemptors are T8!!!!!!! (Edit: NM I’m dumb)
And oh my god emperor of mankind save us if that oblit price isn’t faq’d. That is absolutely INSANE.

Optimisticpaint
Optimisticpaint

What benefits you guys most with Freeview? Watching them here or increasing your views on YouTube?

Bulwyf
Bulwyf

You know I love you guys and have total respect for what you do and the quality of the videos is truly top notch. With that being said allowing Beard to use what is clearly a typo to have 65 point Oblits using the new datasheet for them was just wrong. Bone played against an almost 500 point difference against him as a result. We all know that is a typo and what the new Oblit costs are. Knowing this was a typo can I ask why the decision was made to go with it? Was it just to illustrate… Read more »

Ian Clarke
Ian Clarke

Likely my favorite so far and i’ve seen them all. Well done lads!
Keep doing what you’re doing, long list intro and all. It’s one of the things that sets you apart from the rest.
Also three of you guys in a report is far an away the most entertaining. Bone keep representing the grim dark down under!

Chris Healey
Chris Healey

great game, obliterated the primaris 😀

Owl the Molfar
Owl the Molfar

That charges from Mr.Bone – so EPIC!!!!
Thanks for battle report and new rules overview.

Bryan Pereira
Bryan Pereira

Just wanted to say i really enjoy the pregame chats.. I always look forward to hearing all of your feedback on the new debuts.

****Spoiler ahead **** On a side note Beards war cry on that seize had me almost spit out my drink lol!!

Andrew Horan
Andrew Horan

Would love to see the Indomitus Crusader Specialist Detachment be used with the new Primaris Force. It’s amazing with guilliman (CP Hungry and rerolls)but even without him; the new bolter discipline rule and the rapid fire strategem on a unit of 10 intercessors you can get 40 str4 ap-1 shots. Plus it gets intercessors to 3 attacks each in melee. With the Grey Shield Warlord trait you can get very creative as well. Would love to see a full unit of inceptors with plasma as well. (Scions of Guilliman really helps). I’m sure you guys have all these ideas already… Read more »

Casey
Casey

One day, during the opening discussion, I will Not try to wipe off the smudge in the top left corner of my screen. Just one time, I won’t fall for it, I promise.

Marc Svensson
Marc Svensson

Oh man, I was so hyped for this game, thank you Bone for the Walrus joke by the way, literally had me crying in laughter, but then it turned out it was 2450 points of Iron Warriors vs. 2000 points of Imperial Fists, which is a shame really.

Bellchump
Bellchump

the intro is always the best bit. For someone who lives far from home and one their own a lot of the time, the banter that goes on before (and during) the battle reports is fantastic. Makes me feel like I am part of the gang. Interested to see how another instalment of Lawrence and Kids unfolds.

Pete Croft
Pete Croft

Repulsors are so cool, and their firepower is pretty great, but sweet jaysus will some savvy techmarine stick a rosarius on one already, just use the holy duct-tape and slap it on there, it’ll be grand.

Beard playing 450 points up probably didn’t help though 😛

Ghislain Vallieres
Ghislain Vallieres

hey what about the altar of Khorn no rules???? Great game btw!

Kev Bates
Kev Bates

Talking about which fiends are the best, I’ve been saying it since before Vigilus and Shadowspear, its even better now – DEFILERS!! they’ve had 2 massive points drops in chapter approved. You could get 3 and a lord discordant for under 600 points, arm them with autocannons and scourges and just march them forward. That new soulforged pack gives them extra move, they have a bunch of heavy weapons now hitting on 4+ when moving and turn 2 when they are mid table they can start charging into anything available and just rip and tear. It is so many high… Read more »

Eardrumms
Eardrumms

Hey guys! I’ve been a subscriber for about 18 months now and an avid watcher. Best 40k channel hands down and the range of content is excellent (can’t wait for season 2 cast of players either!). I recently went back and re-watched the narrative report you did a while back, and made me want some more of them. So I’ve written a little back-story to hopefully help inspire a narrative report and/or just give you a laugh! *Mainly Bone and Beard, Lawrence – you might just shake your head disapprovingly. It’s called… Kevin’s First GrimDay at School by Thomas Liberty… Read more »

FS_12
FS_12

Regarding the discussion on the Repulsors and wether they are viable or not… Realistically even at 200-250 points they would still die turn 1. My feeling in 8th is that there is a massive discrepency in terms of effiency of durability. We usually discuss the offensive aspect of the game but the defensive one is just as if not more important dont you agree? Marines cant sustain damage because they have no defensive force multipliers outside RG chapter tactic, no stratagems, no real WL-traits/relics (IF one comes to mind, which is good but not for vehicles…). What Vehicles are effective?… Read more »

nab
nab

oblits are listed as 6 powerlevel per 1 obliterator in the new dex. The old were 10 powerlevel for 3. So definately a typo for their pointcost.

The obisidian dragons are purdy as all hell guys, huge thumbs up.

Matthew Dean
Matthew Dean

The obliterators are definitely a typo. More wounds, more shots, better toughness and a fist they have 100% missprinted the points cost and if that was the case then beard had 450pts more than bone.

John Barber
John Barber

I just don’t think you use the Lord discordant with forgefiends, which is a shame because Forgefiends look awesome. I think they’re really useful with say; Maulerfiends or even Defiler spam.

As to Heldrakes, all I think they really need as a fix is having 2 baleflamer profiles or 2 autocannons.

Martin
Martin

Did Bone use his Warlord trait even once? 😀

Great game guys, this was the most entertaining battle rep so far! And the new primaris are amazing, that captain needs a name for that charge!!!!!

William Labelle
William Labelle

Excellent game as always guys, love the color scheme on the Obsidian Dragons, the captain making that charge near the end of the game was so epic haha