Warhammer 40,000 Battle Report: Thousand Sons vs Death Guard 2000pts

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Erik Tasker
Erik Tasker

unfortunately I feel like the Scarab Occult are sort of the weakest of all terminator options 🙁 The soulreaper cannon is underwhelming, the power sword defeats the typical terminator function of smashing monsters, heavy infantry and tanks in combat, and they’re just not more resilient enough to be worth the points. I think not only the Blightlord with their vast range of loadout options and enhanced toughness are far better, but the Deathshroud are too even at their cost, because of what they’re capable of doing with their weapons and their synergy with a warlord who can potentially buff their… Read more »

Michael Alex King
Michael Alex King

Don’t you have to stop within more than 1″ of the unit/model you did not declare charge against ?

Vachones
Vachones

I ran this exact mission at an RTT and it…was not well received. For the exact reasons mentioned here, it gets really silly with the objective movement.

Damien L Owen
Damien L Owen

Mr. Baker ruins do not give you a minus to charging only craters and forests. That was 7th edition, not 8th

AquitaineUA
AquitaineUA

I want Primaris Terminators, please GW.

CoffefakBinna
CoffefakBinna

I think they should add an objective that gives you a point for removing every model from the board for these new missions.

Ruggiero Lo Sardo
Ruggiero Lo Sardo

I think terminators should have inbuilt bonus to strength (say 6). I think 3 wounds and 4++ would be too much, but 3 wounds would go a long way to making them interesting. They are still best dealt with by heavy weaponry, but getting damage 3 means stuff with d6 or flat 3 damage. Not being able to kill a terminator with a plasma would be huge. So I would say that for the same points an extra wound and the capacity to punch big things with the proper weapons would make them tasty.

kyle brown
kyle brown

When i think grudge match with Morty, I think White Scars. On that note how about a Death Guard vs Ashen Huntsman?

Justin Vombaur
Justin Vombaur

Do you guys have any plans on doing Horus heresy battle reports? I feel like the system is great for super narrative games, plus it tends to be pretty balanced as it’s mostly space Marines against space Marines

William Hudelson
William Hudelson

I think a re roll for terminator invulnerable saves would be enough for them to become viable.

kyle brown
kyle brown

One of the most talk about conversations.. How to fix marines and units. This is my idea
TRANSHUMAN RULE, marines have a minus 1 to wound. This will effect all units, terminators, assault, bikes. It would make them more survivable and fit the fluff better. As for terminators on top i think they should be able to reroll armour saves of 1

Yann Head
Yann Head

yet anouther very interesting game, and I agree, the terminators really need something to make them « threat level alpha ». I personally realy like the idea of giving them back their 2+ armour save on 2d6…

Geoffrie Hoiting
Geoffrie Hoiting

Might be me, but doesn’t Magnus have to roll for damage when attacking that first Plagueburst Crawler? ‘Young Lawrence’ rolled 5 successful wound rolls and added those up for damage. Great batrep as always! Loving this stuff.

Luke
Luke

I’ve learnt playing thousand sons, the tzaangor bomb works best in turn two onwards.

Rarely in range with smite turn one or boltguns so best moving your force up so they’re in range and then drop it!

Great bat rep though guys

Austin Martin
Austin Martin

Best batrep I’ve seen in a while here, keep up the good stuff guys! I really appreciated the type of lists (they are realistic, yet not 100% optimized — very accurate to how most people play and it was fun to see!)
It was also nice to see some of the great strats featured, like Cabalistic Focus (sometimes ppl forget about these)

Russell Wilson
Russell Wilson

I bet after you’re kicking yourself when you realised how many of those 1s to cast could of been re-rolled because you were within 9 of Magnus. Being a rabid Thousand sons fan it was rough to watch lol!

Augusto Fioretti
Augusto Fioretti

This game has been RIGGED!! Call the police! (Or the Inquisition…)

Thank you very much for these games, you see entertainment, fluff, tactica and excellent mood. Me too I always try to make some units work, opponents never know what I am launching to them, sometimes it works wonders.. and sometimes…

I am trying to get some terminators for a Word Bearers fluffy army (yes, I know they suck, but I will make them work!)

I play Slaanesh.. don’t get me started with 5++ invulnerables, Mr. Baker.

Alex
Alex

Hahahaha 1hr 18

Buuurrrrrp

Totally ignored.

That tickled me!

Neil Birt
Neil Birt

Terminators accross the board for should be T5 for me.I think that would go a long way to making them match the lore and also a more viable option to choose.

Kieran Barnes
Kieran Barnes

the AOS model, Gaunt Summoner, would make for a great tzeench prince with some minor conversion. You can even put him on a disk and call it wings

Alec Glass
Alec Glass

Oh yess, I’ve been hoping you guys would play this mission at some point! It’s super weird and swingy as this game shows, but I think it’s great fun for those more fluffy games. Really enjoyed this one, always fun to see some chaos v chaos!

Francois Lalonde
Francois Lalonde

Do your neighbors ever complain about Bone’s screaming? 😀

Magnis
Magnis

This is why most book missions fall short imo. Yes, the game shouldn’t be all about tabling, but there’s really only two ways to score in 40k, stand somewhere (or deny an opponent standing there) and kill something. Missions should reward for both to some extent.

Luciano Sgarbi

Good game! Worked out kind of fluffy: Nurgle went for kills and swarmed the board – Tzeentch took a heavy hit, but won on strategy and swiped all the airborne goods. Seems reasonable. 😀

Snarftron 9001
Snarftron 9001

Soooo….the daemon princes are called: Rick and Jerry, right? To hang out with Morty.

On a serious note…can we see a Deathshroud + Typhus terminator bomb one game (if you have the models)? And…personally i think the Tzeentch stuff is unfortunately a bit boring now…maybe some of those Vortex beasties could spice them up?

Magnis
Magnis

Hey Bone … they probably have melatonin in Vegas.

Joel McGrinder
Joel McGrinder

Let’s not forget the shaman’s sorcerous elixir! You can re-roll your first failed psychic cast. Tasty!

Owl the Molfar
Owl the Molfar

A bunch of traitors killing each other. What a marvellous sight!
*turning to fleet officer* Prepare to execute the Exterminatus while they are distracted!

P.S. Thanks for awesome (as always) battle report.

Eric Blomqvist
Eric Blomqvist

5 videos every week is the best news of the year! I have been silently watching you guys on demand for a while now and wanted to say thank you for your work! Your videos are hands down the best warhammer content on youtube and cast of players is just ridiculously good.

Stephen Saint
Stephen Saint

I love you guys but please, Rot – Hail. Great watch as always, fellas. Keep the laughs coming!

Ryan Muza
Ryan Muza

Maybe I missed something but I think that Bone didn’t attempt to deny quite a few psychic powers with Morty, can’t he deny 3 a turn?

Nazzel
Nazzel

Here is my clap for bbone remembering psyhic stuff. *clap* *clap*

*edit* also clap for Remember right name *Clap* *clap*

Harris Richards
Harris Richards

5 videos a week….I’m calling heresy!!! Hope cast of players is one of them (or at least every 2 weeks) though!

Jonathan Philo
Jonathan Philo

Chaos Vs chaos.
So you don’t have to remember DTTFE

Todesbrot
Todesbrot

I’ve got a question for you all, because I’ve seen argument for both sides. Stuff like Magnus get +2 to “all psychic tests” (Grey Knights, Ahriman, ….. as well).

Is a Deny the Witch test a Psychic test? Could not find anything that says so.

Bulwyf
Bulwyf

Fun game! As a Death Guard player myself I was rooting for Bone to pull out a win for the Sons of Barbarus. If some of the movable objective rolls had went the other way Bone easily wins this game. I do suggest Blightlord Terminators. They are the only terminators currently worth taking in any army and they can do a lot of work in a list.

Todesbrot
Todesbrot

at 1:00:00, Magnus let’s you reroll the 1’s on Psychic Tests within 9″

Todesbrot
Todesbrot

at 1:00:00, Magnus let’s you reroll the 1’s on Psychic Tests within 9″

Jozef Hudacek
Jozef Hudacek

Yeessss

Luciano Sgarbi

Can’t wait to watch this. The timing is weird: I just played my DG vs Thousand Sons last night! I lost. Doombolt on Poxwalkers (half movement speed, can’t advance) made them practically useless. 🙂

Update: this video made me buy the grotty objective markers.

Jeffrey Landis
Jeffrey Landis

Is there a place where lists in these battle reports are posted? This will help me build my lists and plan out my purchases. I don’t want to copy the armies, but take the units and combinations that seemed to work and work them into my own armies.

Alex Volkov
Alex Volkov

Regarding the discussion at 1:31:30
I don’t believe that the fact that you can’t make a 7+ save on a 6-sided dice means that you “don’t have a save”. You just can’t roll a 7+, but I don’t think there is a rule that says that you are not allowed to roll your saving throw, eventhough it is impossible to pass.
Haywire bikes also can do mortal wounds on 4+ even if a 6 is required to actually wound the target and 4s and 5s are failed.

Aaron Kinley
Aaron Kinley

Don’t forget that mighty -1 toughness for units within 7 of Morty. Love seeing those plague spitters wounding T4 on 2’s and curse of the leper doing mortals on 3’s. Loved the batrep, big boys going head to head! 😀
Edit – the 6 to wound was a mortal wound in addition to Magnus from Grotty’s favoured son with blades on him

Akrabra (John Ivar)
Akrabra (John Ivar)

You know that you can re-roll 1s on Psychic tests if you are within 9 Inches of Magnus, right? So could’ve gotten off that early Warptime.

Gato Volador
Gato Volador

Hey Lawrence, if you do the Deamons of Tzeentch yourself, may I suggest you a conversion from the AoS Morgahsts?

https://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/Morghast-Archai-2018

These guys look so much better than the actual demon prince miniature…

A cloose second for me is the Ogroid Thaumaturge

https://www.games-workshop.com/de-DE/Ogrid-Thaumaturge
But that guy has no wings

John Barber
John Barber

I think soulreapers and the like are waste of points on scarab occults since the bolter change. I think you’re much better off saving the points, going bolters and the hellfyre racks.

senatordanny
senatordanny

Who is this new Death Guartd faction? Are they a Death Guard successor chapter?
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Schimo
Schimo

What was Bone doing there? Literally not moving less than inches to stand directly on objectives for the entirety of the game and losing tons of points in the process.. rather frustrating to watch to be honest, seems so obvious.

Greg Dorly
Greg Dorly

I don’t believe it!!! So close – another great bat rep to watch.

Martin
Martin

Really love to see such beutiful painted armies with 2 huge Primarchs 😀

Can we see a Crimson Fist Primaris VS Orks?! Just read the black library books with Rynns World sooooo 😀