Warhammer 40,000 Battle Report: Grey Knights vs Khorne 2000pts

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Duanor
Duanor

Great game guys.

Lawrence I just wanted to say you inspired me to try and build a GK army. I also wanted to ask if you ever considered using “Finest Hour (2 CP): At the start of your turn, double the range of any GREY KNIGHTS CHARACTER’s aura effects” to create a cascade of D6 smites with the banner.

Regards from Spain.

Óscar.

Pollux02
Pollux02

Just subscribed the channel because of the amazing Grey Knights reports! Keep doing these amazing work!

Antonio Decicco
Antonio Decicco

comment image spider looked suitably terrified pregame

Luke T Sanders
Luke T Sanders

obvious answer to how to fix the world eaters list? bring a sorcerer from a diffferent chapter. You need Warp Time if you’re going to make a serious CSM assualt list.

GDTJon
GDTJon

forsure Sir Garroth(spelling?) as the New Lord of Discordant. I love the World eater games, but every time Sir Garroth makes me sad.

GDTJon
GDTJon

forsure Sir Garroth(spelling?) as the New Lord of Discordant. I love the World eaters they were my first army. and every time the leader great Sir Garroth makes his grand appearance we always have to be sad he’s only index. lol

Alan Shroue
Alan Shroue

I hope you have an employee of the month sign that has bones face on it, after having to deal with the spiders dice rolling every game!

David Holderness
David Holderness

Great game Guys

Bone just a trick to make your Berzerkers go further – any model can opt to make an attack in melee with their base strength at AP0 D1 instead of any weapons they may hold. This allows for far easier wrapping and trapping!

Taron
Taron

I mean if a daemon army is looking to include some CSM sticking in a battalion of Red Corsairs could be interesting.

I’ve been thinking about the “Red 17” a lot.

KEVIN SANTOS
KEVIN SANTOS

We need custodes games to purge all the heretical up rising of all the chaos codex releases!

Kieran Barnes
Kieran Barnes

Skarbrand might be worth a loo, he gets more attacks as his wounds goes down

Altansar
Altansar

Bone, What if you ran dual battalions of 3 units of 10 Bloodletters with 1 of each Bloodthirster?

Nicholas Redford
Nicholas Redford

Bone, you need to bring a Wrath Of Khorne Bloodthirster instead! They get d6 attacks instead of 2 on their lowest profile and they reroll all hits against characters (eg. Dreadknights)

Jay Johnston
Jay Johnston

I really like the costodies games and grey knight games. I prefer Grey Knights but i was hoping to see some costidies expectually with some of there new beta rule units. the the new/old term with the S5 Ap -3 flat 3 damage shooting guns. B-Bone Give me my birthday wish.

Danny Aland
Danny Aland

if you were in 6″ of Draigo when you were duelling the blood thirster, you could have re-rolled that damage roll, it one of those rules that gets forgotten.

EDIT: and the paladin’s against the dogs.

Peter Almo
Peter Almo

First time asking this guys, where did you get the scenic back boards for the tables?

BobbyG
BobbyG

With Demonic incursion you come back at the end of your next movement phase, so actually your bloodthirster could have come back and do a last bit of a pretty mess!

Sam Whitt
Sam Whitt

The extra invuln save is Tzeentchs “thing”. All greater Daemons need a buff, not just Bloodthirsters. Bloodletter bombs have had there day I think. They generally come down, kill a unit, then die.

Aaron Wilson
Aaron Wilson

This game gave me a good laugh, really funny and it looked epic. Well played both 🙂

Danny Aland
Danny Aland

Controversially, I don’t use GMNDK anymore, although the guns are “good”, but lets face it they ain’t great, so I stick to the terminator characters these days. their melee is close enough with flat 3 damage, they’re cheaper, for filling out the detachments, they make best use of their discount strat, only in death does duty end, as they do not degrade, gain the benefit of character protection and buffs from the banner. Voldus works well as a secondary mortal wound spam alongside bro cap and ancient.

Mike Jello-Sky
Mike Jello-Sky

Gallant! Good fight, gents. Always entertaining when the Hammers of Titan are on the channel. With the new ITC rules, I’m chomping at the bit to get my GK back from the painter… going to be sweet! Lawrence, what do you think it going on with GK and Forgeworld? They literally have ZERO units available now… Think something is coming? I like the Pure GK list. I think with bolter drill, the terminators might be a good idea, but strike squads are just too cheap (if you can call them cheap) not to take. Would definitely LOVE to see GK… Read more »

Brian Ellis
Brian Ellis

Ben, the “something” your list is missing is force multiplication. You mentioned using CP on your letters, but it’s not just CP, they get really scary with the right Heralds around them. Lawrence played nearly the whole game with his army getting rerolls and buffs from each other, worked really well. There is a Khorne demon warlord trait which adds a 6+ FNP and makes the unit stronger the first time you pass a FNP, letting you re-roll hits and wounds on the next turn. So that’s a liiiittle bit of what you ask for, but man if it was… Read more »

Mark Maughan
Mark Maughan

Hey Lawrence. Ive heard you refer to power level a couple of times with regards to half in deepstrike.

Didn’t the last FAQ change that to be no more than half units and half points?

I think they put the power level thing to bed in Match Play. Not sure if it makes too much of a difference.

Am I wrong on this?

B-Rad
B-Rad

Someone needs to do the math on how often these guys roll 1’s on seize rolls! It seems statistically high.

Nairul
Nairul

Hey Lawrence, Great game! Your GK lists are getting stronger. This matchup allowed for quite an interesting deployment on your part, which I think you improvised quite well. But against a typical gunline army you would probably struggle to find an efficient delivery system for all those units (considering tactical reserves legality). Paladins in a double-battalion are hard to justify for that reason. Lately in my double battalion lists I’ve been loving one Astral Aim Ven Dread & one Rhino. I’ve found a Rhino is a cheap way to really fix tactical reserves for us, yet still provides a cheeky… Read more »

Sam Shand
Sam Shand

Did you guys see Jim Vesal’s adepticon winning list. He was raving about his Khorne Daemon prince. That thing was taking out multiple knights per game with the Skullreaver relic.

If you’re running a daemon detachment, then that Prince with the relic is so much better than the blood thirster.
6 x S11 AP-4 D6 damage attacks hitting on 2s re-rolling with D3 mortal wounds on wound rolls of 6+. and against knights re-rolls wounds.

Please add that guy to the list. Also id love to see some daemom princes added to the Thousand Sons too

Russell Alderton
Russell Alderton

I had an idea @benjaminbonar:disqus – get some dice, mark the 1’s as 6’s and the 6’s as 1’s, ta-da! you get a fair set of dice that you can consistently roll high.. im still only on turn 1 i hope it goes better for you later

Snarftron 9001
Snarftron 9001

Totally agree on the Khorne Bloodthirster…stick the points up a bit (to 300?) and something like: 1) 7 attacks base (so 8 on chargeif charged – Khorne’s number) 2) Get more attacks but less accurate as they get wounded (final tier is something crazy like 12 attacks hitting on 5s) 3) have a 4+ invul save 4) They could have another stat to their table for degradation, such as the ignore wounds, as Bone mentioned. Maybe go from 5+ on full health down to 3+ on the final tier? Hell, make it a 2+!!! LOL That way you have this… Read more »

Micha Ben Toby
Micha Ben Toby

Bone, mate, take those dice out an burn them already O.o

Augusto Fioretti
Augusto Fioretti

According to Moral rolls, Grey Knights and Daemonic incursion, from the top of my memory, I believe it has been FAQ’ed that if a demon unit is destroyed following a failed moral roll because of the loss of models caused by Grey Knights, the unit is considered by Grey Knights for the purpose of bringing them back from the insane pits of warp.

Paul Kidd
Paul Kidd

Guy, great game. And on this day I am a one year old subscriber to the channel! Bosh! Keep up the great work 🙂

Raffazza
Raffazza

Loved it! And dammit – now I want to go a GK army! Exactly what I love about them in this list. And, the cherry on top, they are definitely not ‘competitive’, which is by far the most fun type of army to use – you get to really celebrate wins, get to mock any defeated opponents, are not blamed for defeats… Glorious! With the way in which Deathwatch can freely choose their ammunition, and the fact the world is full of AP shooting now, all those CPs to improve GK shooting seems significantly out of touch with the modern… Read more »

Sam77
Sam77

Awesome game boys!
I think you boys should share the same dice, I know there’s no logic in it but it feels like it takes away the crazy bad roll risks from one set.
Also surely a unit killed by morale counts as being destroyed as per first strike or other maelstrom kill cards?????

Byron Livingstone
Byron Livingstone

The banner allows reroll to all charges on the zerkers, not just failed ones. Also if you’re looking to trap with zerkers you can just attack with their base 5 strength, don’t have to use chain axes. that way at least they don’t get the -1 to their save.

WitchDoctor
WitchDoctor

“Three chaos Rhinos to put in my berserkers…” more of an Emperors Children things innit?

GhostValley
GhostValley

Nothing will tickle me as quickly as Bone’s changes in tone and pitch that coincides directly with Lawrence’s increasingly better dice rolls! It never get’s old. A torch in the dark against the horrors of this world. Bravo guys, another gem.

Stuart Manks
Stuart Manks

I’ve been looking at the FW Blood Slaughterers for my khorne list, 3 of them with a lord discordant flying up the board with an auto advance 6″ run them with 2 blades for bonus attacks take them in the soul-forge detachment and give the LD the +2 movement bubble WL trait that’s an 18″ move on all of them and 1 can still charge. 9 attacks each -3 ap and 3 damage these thing kill anything they hit

Marcello Genovese
Marcello Genovese

Jugger lord is a demon unfortunately. So he gets smote for 3 mortals…. Man just when I think this guy is bad he manages to slip further down lol.

Bulwyf
Bulwyf

Very fluffy game! My heart hurts for poor Bone. It is a common thing to watch Spider roll crazy high on those red dice and Bone roll not so good on all the other dice. Perhaps a dice switch would help? I also have to request a Space Wolves/Khorne or World Eater’s game. I don’t know if you guys have done two assault armies going against each other. It would be a nice change of pace to have two assault armies going at each other!

AquitaineUA
AquitaineUA

I love that Paladins

Travis Akers
Travis Akers

Greater daemons look so cool but really need to be buffed. I really hate how knights seem to loom over everything in terms of expensive units, like yeah the paladins are rad and so are things like repulsors but they just dont stack up pts per effectiveness to the knights

Yann Head
Yann Head

good game, oh b-bone those dice roles were horrible

and I agree with the Bloodthirster damage box makes no sense.. especially when Skarbrands’ box has “A” increase as he gets more wounded.. very odd. Greater daemons should be “Lords of War” and between 350 and 500pts a piece.

Andrés Cravioto
Andrés Cravioto

Kind of off-topic, but I think a static aerial shot of the battlefield would look amazing in your battle reports, you can show large-scale deployment / objectives and I imagine a super sped-up shot used as a transition to show the movement phase.

Daniel Hammond
Daniel Hammond

great bat rep as normal, can we see a deathwatch tactica game please

nab
nab

This game had a bucketload of character, the two factions are so much fun to watch fight each other. Joy to watch. Bones dice luck was incredible, tho I couldn’t help giggling along with the spider 😀

Cheers guys

Rob Butcher
Rob Butcher

Spider – it was great to hear the thinking process throughout for both generals for the more advanced moves.

Luciano Sgarbi

Question: Defend objective cards – it says you get the points at the end of ‘two consecutive turns’ but is that at the end of two of YOUR turns, or does it include your opponent’s as well? Noticed I’ve played this both ways, depending on how my opponent thinks it works. (Personally I thought it was at the end of two of YOUR turns, so you must stay within 3″ of it for 2 full turns). Two of everyones’ turn seems a bit weird, because then you’re scoring the points during your opponents turn … [Edit: But it seems that… Read more »

Just_Luke
Just_Luke

In future, i would defiantly recommend a big pack of Bloodcrushers. I run a unit of 6 with Skullmaster support. Since they got buffed to 4 wounds each, it has made then hell of a lot more survivable. Considering it’ll take AT LEAST 2 hits from; titanic feet, battle cannons, Powerfists, thunder hammers, force weapons, guardian spears….. just to kill one……and they are a great target for warp surge… its VERY INTERESTING! They also throw out a massive amount of attacks. I would like to hear what Lawrence thinks about them.
keep up the good work guys

Martijn Poot
Martijn Poot

I’d love to see a blood tithe thing going on for khorne armies. They’ve got something like that for nurgle, but it is way more appropiate for khorne, in my opinion. Every unit or number of units killed giving a slight bonus seems awesome.

MaxPower
MaxPower

Bone – who did you hurt that has cursed your dice so badly? Are we sure that Lawrence hasn’t microwaved his dice? What’s wrong with him!?