Warhammer 40,000 Battle Report: Deathwatch vs Orks 2000pts

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Paul Kidd
Paul Kidd

Well that was depressing….:( Beard, as both a Deathwatch and Knight player your dice hurt my soul. That being said, and I don’t like dissing a Xenos faction, Badmoons are pretty much broken. When Orks don’t need to charge and can just out shoot a Marine army then something is wrong with the Codex. I’m not just basing this comment on this battle report. I’ve watch plenty of Ork bat-reps online since the new Codex hit and it’s always painful to watch whenever the Badmoons are on the table. But that being said, if their so good then why not… Read more »

Sebastian Luigi Lorenzo Mencon
Sebastian Luigi Lorenzo Mencon

Always make the castellan RAVEN and reroll and remember to reroll to wound against titanics with the volcano lance, YOU TWWWWWWAT

Mike Jello-Sky
Mike Jello-Sky

I definitely think pure knights are still scary as ever.
I don’t know if I’d use the Castellan still, though, it’s still a great choice; even at 704 points.
I’m leaning towards 2 Crusaders, a Lancer, and 3 helverins.
Very nasty stuff

Good game gents!

Raffazza
Raffazza

I love it… Bone, you in effect made a Tau Ork army 🙂

Auto hitting long range high strength weapons are… counter fun alas. Highly effective and recommended, but not the most fun 🙂

Matt Battiston
Matt Battiston

BBone the Orks are absolutely your army man. Your impersonation of Orky voice was perfect and your rolling was on fire!

Bulwyf
Bulwyf

Bone you definitely showed what the Orks can do. That was a solid, strong list. When the armies were being reviewed I felt Beard was really at a disadvantage. I know you guys do your best to make the games as balanced as you can but this was a very tough one for Beard. I think Bone played a great game, he rolled well and I highly agree that Bone’s general personality meshes will with the BOYZ.

Warp5p1d3r
Warp5p1d3r

you keep forgetting your more dakka

Brogre
Brogre

How about auto bolt rifles or assault plasma incinerators with an aggressor with the change to special issue ammo? Advance and fire without penalty 2 shots with special issue ammo. Thoughts?

Mark
Mark

Interesting game, Bone that’s more the Ork list build an looking at playing. Well played.

Craig Mackay
Craig Mackay

Beard i think your best bet is x2 Relic Leviathan Dreanoughts with Storm Cannons, not only would that be x40 str7, ap-2, dam2 shots, but they are BS 2+ and with a watch Captain nearby re-rolling those 1s you can really lay the hurt down regardless of your terrible luck.

Chris Soper
Chris Soper

You guys should do a gallery of some of the new armies or some of the awesome batreps. You could even have a viewers send ins, which people could then comment(nicely hopefully) on. I love the Orks, Beard’s Deathwatch and all those slaved over Sanger models but you don’t get a close up of the models you can gawk over properly. Maybe even let Sanger out of the box to have a look at his work every now and again? ;P

Fishonadish
Fishonadish

Why does Bones Ork voice sound like MIchael Caine whos been smoking 60 a day!!!!

Aaron Wilson
Aaron Wilson

Yet another great battle report from TTT. I felt for beard in this one, from the get go I felt his list was not nearly as strong as the Ork one. Then we had beards turn one and it all just spiralled down from there, you could hear it in beards voice by turn 3 😛 It didn’t help that Bone was rolling 5/6s for his Dakka Dakka Dakka / More Dakka like no ones business turn 1/2. Good game, but the lists definately were not even. The game also did show a side of 40K I’m not super thrilled… Read more »

Quasistellar
Quasistellar

Real question: why not twin las ven dreads? Then do two fortis squads of 5 intercessors + 4 hellblasters +1 inceptor. Then one normal vet squad plus a jump pack captain for deep strike? People keep saying DW has no anti tank but I’m not buying it at all. Also: knights just aren’t that good if you don’t take the good combos of traits and relics. Edit: maybe should have taken a punt at a character with the missile strat after beards draw turn 2? Meh anyway I think the points nerf on top of loss of 3++ could have… Read more »

Chris Jones
Chris Jones

After the back to back whiffs on the knight. All intrigue was sucked out of this one.
Play against mork a lot. I would have just ignored it and ran through the traktor cannons as much as possible.
I mean it took until turn three for him to produce results. He rarely scares me while on the board no matter what army I’m running. Anyone find him an exceptional threat?
Still love watching the glee run from ork players rolling 60 dice at the start and dwindling down to a handful of wounds at best. 😂

Joseph Tannehill
Joseph Tannehill

don’t worry beard i feel your pain, i too am a luck vortex and my primary opponent has Lawrence’s luck.

CreativeName

Something about the tractor cannon auto hitting infantry from 48 inches away rubs me the wrong way. I know it’s not going to be a horde killer but it’s too effective against elite armies in my mind who are going to have to wade through that and a trillion shots followed by a million attacks. Auto hit the vehicles, be great against flyers, but kill marines from across the board too… idk… not a huge fan for that. Crazy game but enjoyable

Reinhard Von
Reinhard Von

Im just going to stop watching beard play, hurts to much.

Simon
Simon

In beards second turn… Isnt the morkanaut titanic? Volcanolance reroll failed to wond does it not?

Also beard…get house raven. The reroll ones stratagem is made for you.

Chris Frosin
Chris Frosin

Oh Beard those couple of ‘anti-clutch’ rolls man! Happens to the best of us though 🙂

Wow, this felt really flat. Cool to see a different Ork list and always cool to see a Beard/Bone-athon. But it felt very much like ‘this is shooting this, rolling dice’ rather than the usual painting a picture of what’s happening and banter.
Always look forward to the next one though 🙂 Have a great week guys. Keep up the awesome games and keep sticking those lists out!

Franco Nova
Franco Nova

Beard, Deathwatch does indeed lack AntiArmor! If you could, try out the Land RAider Achilles. It’s an ABSOLUTE BEAST, and worth every point.

BobbyG
BobbyG

at 1:15:00 -> The Laugh!! Bone just please do this against the spider

MortZ82
MortZ82

I think taking a Preceptor and 2 Armiger Warglaives/Helverins for a Super Heavy Detachment would be better, grants House rule, 3CP and would be 740-800 points depending on what u take, with more wounds Basicly ++ Super-Heavy Detachment +3CP (Imperium – Imperial Knights) [41 PL, 1CP, 765pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Detachment CP [3CP] Exalted Court [-1CP]: Exalted Court: 1 Extra Warlord Trait Heirlooms of the Household [-1CP]: Heirlooms of the Household: 1 Extra Heirloom Household Choice: Questor Mechanicus . House Taranis + Lord of War + Armiger Warglaives [9 PL, 174pts] . Armiger Warglaive: Meltagun Armiger… Read more »

Chris
Chris

Don’t feel too bad Beard. I roll just as bad as you. We should start a support group lol.

Nick Lucas
Nick Lucas

And the Castellans reign was not short enough.

Sorry for your luck Beard!

Owl the Molfar
Owl the Molfar

“So much Dakka! What a man can do against such a flashy gits!” – governor Theodenus, while watching Waaaagh! Uruk Zog descending upon fortress planet Macharius’ Deep, Segmentum Solar.

P.S. The first part (in quotes) was fond on inet and is of uncknown authorship.
P.S.S. 1:09:09 – do not worry Mr.Bone you do not make it worse, you roll an 1 again. To be fair, considering how Mr. Beard rolls, again, you shouldn’t comply)

Yann Head
Yann Head

another interesting game… thanks lads. My thoughts: This is why I do not have a castellian in my IK army, I use the Valliant no to hit rolls with its main weapon. 🙂 I’m like Beard. as for the changes in a pure IK army it does not make much of a difference. Oh yes a list with lots of planes!! I’m not sure that would work with Orks… I’m thinking of a CSM list using Forge World storm eagles, they are a bit pricy, but you can just about fit 4 at 2000pts… yet again AM valkyries are the… Read more »

Michael Ryder
Michael Ryder

The speed that you guys get these bat reps out is incredible. Especially when you take in the quality of the material as well.
Great job guys keep it coming 👍

Viktor
Viktor

Castellan is overrated, how many Dune Crawlers can you get instead and than you can get Cawl for super accuracy

Viktor
Viktor

The website has some security issues so I had to use Opera cuz Chrome and Safari just would not let me even log in

James John Stewart
James John Stewart

This is kind of why you need to run a Castallen with House Raven so you can do Order of Companions and re-roll ALL the 1s. This game was kind of an exemplar of why that is necessary.

Also, I sort of think a House Raven Crusader and a couple of Helverins would better for your purposes, Beard, than the Castallen. More redundancy and more points efficiency. The Castallen is good, but its a big points sink IMO.

Finally, sorry Beard about your crummy luck. That stinks.

Altansar
Altansar

I think that someone was channeling the Spider with those dice rolls there. Not going to say that there was any leasing of anyone’s soul Bone to the dark gods or anything, but it was Interesting almost Controversial.

Now if that certain someone could do that against the Spider to give him a taste of his own medicine it would be Epic! Especially if it was done with Terry, Kevin, and friends.

Micha Ben Toby
Micha Ben Toby

Can I just say how epic was that in Bone’s first shooting phase? 120 shots into that squad!
You can see the orks all looking at each other and grinning then being like “waddafuq?” And glee turns to horror as the smoke clears and the squad is still there pointing guns at them! No wonder they didnt want to charge them! ^_^

Shame they all got tractored after 🙁

James John Stewart
James John Stewart

Bone, I completely agree. The situation is not that bad for Knights. They will still be strong, the FAQ was just a targeted hit on a specific build i.e. the Castallen soup build. Which was sorely needed. I say this as someone who runs Knights a lot too.

Craig Mackay
Craig Mackay

@Beard, what about the Relic unit choices that are open to the Deathwatch? Leviathan Dread, Relic Sicaran? could be the answer to the lack of anti-armour.

Jan C. Dre

Really good report, more love for the Orkz is always appreciated. One point of thought however: Why did you charge all of the squads with the jumped boys? It was pretty clear that they would loose at least 4 and by that it would mean the charge autofails. Instead, going only for the Aggressor should leave you with much higher chances, then use the fight twice strategem and wrap the rest of the Death Watch next to him. Just my thought on an otherwise epic game!

Phil Stein
Phil Stein

All I’m gonna say is that despite all the naysayers going on about rolling all 1’s and list choices, I’m just saying I believe in you, Beard. And, I’m excited to see your revamped Iron Warriors. You changed my mind on them from a year ago when I started 40k and thought they seemed garbage.

Mike
Mike

This one was a little low energy. The banter seem to not be in this one and that’s the part I really enjoy and all these videos. I think it was taken away from beard when is castling perform so poorly and then just blew up. Poor beard
# beard rolls ones

nab
nab

I’m watching turn 1 Beards shooting phase, I’m not sure if I can go on watching the rolling. It hurts too much.

Bones laughter when the Castellan tries to shoot stuff, is such a funny moment, just cant hold it when Beard gets rolling.

@B-bone the Morkanaut is one point cheaper than the Gorkanaut, if you use the KFF. So I think it still fit into the list 😀

Francois Lalonde
Francois Lalonde

Sometimes I wonder what awful crimes Beard committed in a past life to have such improbably bad luck 😀

Kev Bates
Kev Bates

Holy hell those Knight rolls were hard to watch, don’t think i’ve cringed so hard at a bat rep before xD good on you for sticking it out.

Esat Ali
Esat Ali

I have to say as cool as they look, those Reivers don’t seem worth it to me…. Beard not sure if you got rid of all of your frag cannons for storm bolters, but it would be great to see a Corvus and fraggs again. As good as they are, prime marines are real expensive for just anti-hord. As far as anti-mech, I am using a couple different things: Meltas on Sergeant vets, and frag cannons(2 shots short range lascannon with flat 2 damage)surrounded by storm bolters/SS vets. When deep striking in isn’t too bad or stick them in a… Read more »

Philip Hargrave
Philip Hargrave

9th edition will release before the big 3k game! I’m dying to see it. more excited than game of thrones

D.J Kiepura
D.J Kiepura

Thanks for the upload! 🙂 Good laugh. That castellan seemed a bit underwhelming.

Steven Hobbs
Steven Hobbs

to be honest this is the first of your battle reports that I have not enjoyed if your going to bring a knight take the crusader your saving pretty much 200 points. The Kastellan with marines is just too many points to take from marines to make them it worth it. granted beard being beard did not help unfortunately.
just got to the end of the report and Bone said the same thing 🙂

Russell Alderton
Russell Alderton

did bone fix the morkanaut? it was on 9 wounds, beard knocked the dice on to 12 then bone said ‘this was on 12 wounds later on when it was knocked again. I couldnt remember if it got fixed at any point

Alex Armstrong
Alex Armstrong

Just another game in the life of Beard….Those rolls…

S Min
S Min

Beard – Auspex scan is your friend against Da Jump! Your aggressors could have really given him a bad day!

Stephen Boxall
Stephen Boxall

And that first turn, my dear Beard, is why Order of Companions is so bloody important on a Castellan

William Labelle
William Labelle

Those rolls on the castellan beard, holy poop, I feel you man, thats some rotten luck right there. Really the morkanaut should have been dead turn 1, the fact that it survived even the second round of shooting shows how unlucky you where. Good showing using the orks for a first time bone, you did great. Don’t know if I would sink as many CP in ork shooting as you did (even if it kinda worked out this game). Always keeping 3CP for attacking twice and unstopable green tide is a must for me. People don’t play the klan as… Read more »