Warhammer 40,000 Battle Report: Black Legion vs T’au 2000pts

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Augusto Fioretti

This one was a great – and educational – game. Thanks you both! I really liked the T’au list, even though it seems that “your special unit” is being whiffed out of the table at every game without doing anything. Just like my Keeper of Secrets, if that makes you feel any better.

So close, Mr. Bone, so close…

Paul Kidd
Paul Kidd

Dammit Bone! I was looking forwarded to old top knot getting a rail rifle to the face. Never mind buddy. Great game.

zeog zeog
zeog zeog

Have you guys taken a look at Blackstone Fortress datasheets? There’s a Black Legion two Marine troops unit etc…. Might help towards filling a second battalion on the cheap….

Luke T Sanders
Luke T Sanders

I think Lawrence is slightly misunderstanding Abaddon’s rules.
You get his 6 base attacks which you can/should use on Horus’s talons. Then you get 1d6 additional attacks with the sword. It doesn’t seem optional.

Russell Alderton
Russell Alderton

@benjaminbonar:disqus you are your own worst enemy sometimes – I see you give lawrence (of all people!?) a cocked five on a dice the game before this, then exactly the same angle cocked five of yours this game and you say its cocked, then reroll and miss, which means you didnt get the 3 kills early on. Stop giving lawrence (again, of all people!) an advantage !

Nathaniel Glenn
Nathaniel Glenn

On Demand is well worth it for the quality of stuff you guys put out. But i have to quesiton why no Age of Sigmar? Im an Orks player from 40k collecting Ironjawz now as well, and would love to see them on the channel!

Joe Kerr-Delworth
Joe Kerr-Delworth

Nice batrep guys! Was routing for the comeback in the end! Always good to try and play out the game as anything can happen!

You guys played the overwatch right in this game. It was errata’d in the last round of faq’s and is in the T’au FAQ doc.

As for the Oblits, i potentially have a spare one, new on sprue, if you guys want it? I’m not likely to expand on the number i have. Likewise, with a spare Master of Possession.

Henry Lubka
Henry Lubka

Note that Longstrike benefits from his own aura, so he can’t suffer damage when Overcharging unless he has penalties to hit.

Rob Butcher
Rob Butcher

The feedback and coaching sessions are incredibly useful. Winning and losing means little unless it’s a tournament or a campaign, but improving your own play is fundamental.

So too would a feature about improving the army lists more – ie- on a general level if you have to hold three objectives you need more than three squads AND have to protect them from the enemy. That’s a common fault on tournament play.

Ruggiero Lo Sardo
Ruggiero Lo Sardo

Really great game!
Huge fan of this one. In the end I have started to like Abbadon (Just never did because of the narrative).
How would you guys see a tactica with Chaos? Would really like to see how it would go with the new units

Aaron Wilson
Aaron Wilson

Another epic game from the TTT Team, poor longstrike dead again! This one could of gone either way but that first turn for lawrence was absolutely crucial.

CreativeName

I think that doing tactic discussions in these games with less optimal lists really accentuates the lessons to be learned while the normal tacticas traditionally highlight the tactics in list building making very short swingy games. These are both important but totally different things to learn. Plus one is more fun to watch. Great report!

slag
slag

I’m so happy to see more black legion battle’s with the new stuff.

Jack
Jack

Hey B-Bone, just wanted to point out that units with For The Greater Good (FTGG) can fire overwatch even for units that don’t have FTGG. This could have made a considerable difference to the game as your infantry and riptide could have added their fire against the many units that charged your devilfish.

In fact, there’s nothing in the wording that says FTGG has to support T’au Empire units or even allied units. In a hypothetical 3-player game you could even fire overwatch to support an enemy unit being charged by a different enemy unit.

Love your work, as always!

Chris Shipway
Chris Shipway

Please please please don’t let the music at the intro continue to cover your voices at the beginning anymore!

Dylan Kidwell
Dylan Kidwell

Have you thought about using a lazer to mitigate those back boards?

R Fischer
R Fischer

Hey guys. Sorry if this was asked already. The Table Top folk or anyone who knows can answer for me. What models did those cultist come from? Kit bashed? Forgeworld?

Stephen Boxall
Stephen Boxall

Such a good game this, and a prime example of how an army that on paper can’t beat the other, can win through playing the mission

Optimisticpaint
Optimisticpaint

Running feedback and advice is great. Thanks for another epic report guys.

Adam Davies
Adam Davies

FYI Puretide Engram Neurochip says reroll any single hit, wound or damage roll. Doesn’t matter if it hit or not, or any modifiers.

Also attached drones use Devilfish ballistic skill while embarked (Devilfish/Hammerhead is considered equipped with their pulse carbines). So Longstrike could have fired Pulse Carbines at that Decimator (if in range).

Michael Lucas
Michael Lucas

Hey Bone. If you want to take Longstrike, bit of a point sink, but give him some Bodyguard XV8s to take wounds for him. You can hide them so they cant be targeted as well. I personally would have been a bit more aggressive with the Riptide as it had target lock but it’s the dice that do us in eventually : D

ScorpionP2C
ScorpionP2C

The latest battlereport on youtube was so funny and good I went, why am I not supporting this?
So hello everyone 🙂
Commenting here because no…forums?

Khyz0r
Khyz0r

Very enjoyable game to watch, thank you. Really loving seeing the Black Legion on the table. If I may suggest I think because Longstrike is such a target you should deploy him the furthest away of the 3 hammerheads in this match up. As the Ion’s have 60″ range, and the Decimators and Oblits are only 24″ you would get lots more shooting out of them before they were targeted, even at the risk of not killing all 3 and the Kytan turn 1. That being said if you could of got LOS on the last Decimator turn 1 with… Read more »

Kristian Jensen
Kristian Jensen

I don’t understand, why you feel the need to go ForgeWorld? Is the regular codex really that bad? To me FW stuff is just too OP. You had 3x2x2d3 mortals wounds on re-rollable hits. 24″ range … really that’s a problem? A shame Bone whiffed so many shots. I really liked the list and diversity the studio army brings to the board. Hope to see some other les(not) used units like Piranahs and Crisis suits. The T’au has such great mobility but rarely uses it because it means their units get too close – and by too close I mean… Read more »

Ignacio Paris Meseguer

hi guys! great battle report once again! the coaching was my favourite part. as a black legion player id like to make a couple of pointers! 1. abaddons fearless aura is 12″ not 6″ which gives you so much more flexibility! 2.every time abaddon attacks you HAVE to roll for drachnyen and get minimum of d6 with it, regardless of what you choose to do with the 6 attacks (so couldve killed that devil fish!) 3. wasnt relevant in this battlereport but it was in the other, abaddon re rolls ALL hit rolls not just failed, so synergises well with… Read more »

Maeglin
Maeglin

Epic game guys, love that combination of hilarity and tactics.

Talking of which, any chance of a Tactica game with the Harlequins? Perhaps with a different Masque than Soaring Spite? Frozen Stars could be epic.

Liam Meaker
Liam Meaker

Bone I love you man! You bring so much humour to the channel. I came for Laurence, stayed for Bone!

I play tau as well spend ages building these great lists all my friends are like ” wow that’s going to be really strong i really don’t want to fight that” then they proceed to upset me 😑.

Keep up the awesome work!

JonnyEoE
JonnyEoE

Awesome batrep guys. One thing to put out to Mr. Bone is that when Lawrence charged your devilfish, any units within 6 can use For the Greater Good regardless of whether or not the unit being charged has FTGG

Richard
Richard

Hi I love the coaching part of the tactica, I feel Bone is getting T’au not being able to move but there are options.
I love to see the eight 🙂

Haux
Haux

On the topic of the line of sight blocking terrain, my thinking is that the game so favours shooting that maybe it isn’t really that unfair – maybe more LOS can only be a good thing? Maybe you guys would agree, but in my opinion the movement phase is the most critical phase in the game – when you have armies like Harlequins, Dark Eldar, Custodes etc. that are essentially make or break in the movement phase, is it really fair that an army can just castle up on the other side of the board and roll dice without ever… Read more »

Oskar Ociepa
Oskar Ociepa

Really fun batrep you guys, also loved the impromptu tactica report towards the end there lol. I’ll be interested in seeing the reinforcements hitting Black Legion, running the psychic power Sacrifice on the Master of Possession with a Lord Discordant next to him is super strong. The Lord has the warpsmith keyword and allows the Master of Possession to heal a flat 3 wounds to a friendly Daemon unit if he casts Sacrifice onto the Lord Discordant. That’s one of the combos I’ve been running.

Also enjoy the meme, I couldn’t help myself, love you B-bone lol.comment image

Francois Lalonde
Francois Lalonde

Really enjoyed that one. Nice job with the coaching and tactical play at the end there.

Marcello Genovese
Marcello Genovese

The kytan couldn’t shoot the cold star in turn 2, there was a fire warrior closer to him.

Matt
Matt

Tau: Doesn’t move and plays as a boring static gunline
Black Legion: Grabs objectives and takes the lead
Tau: *Shocked Pikachu Face*

Tobi
Tobi

This was really hard to watch, Bone unable to kill Cultists… I screamed at my screen KILL EM BONE, KILL EM!!!

Warp5p1d3r
Warp5p1d3r

cast prescience on the obliterators as well for extra giggles

Alfonso Gutiérrez
Alfonso Gutiérrez

When are we getting a Black Legion tactica?? 😛

Chris Brothwood
Chris Brothwood

Great battle report. Like it when it is so close. For the greater good next time.

Ghislain Vallieres
Ghislain Vallieres

Nice bot of my army fighting each other lol that going to be good!!

Joshua Matthews
Joshua Matthews

just looked at the rule for the vectored maneuvering thrusters and it does say after attacking in the shooting phase with overwatch being done in the charging phase that means you can’t move the 6″ after shooting overwatch with it if you have been well THATS CHEATING

Mike Jello-Sky
Mike Jello-Sky

Tough for a competitive Tau player to play more friendly lists. Hard to balance out the killy… lol

Good fight as always.
Need some GK bro!! 🙂

Mike Cooper
Mike Cooper

Great game falles. love the banter you to have with each other

Johann Cloarec
Johann Cloarec

Hey Spider ! Don’t forget you could roll for the Strength the AP and the damage of the obliterators, before choosing their target. Sometimes it’s very important.

Keep up the good work !

Bernhard Bolt-Jørgensen
Bernhard Bolt-Jørgensen

Oh boy! Love me some tau! Great BR guys!

Alex Volkov
Alex Volkov

Half through the Battle Report and it is such a refreshing feeling seeing the new Black Legion army. Thanks guys!

nab
nab

Great watch again, really liked how lawrence went in with a clear plan to kill off Bones objective holders, which he’d deployed nicely at the front line. Some points from the game. Think Bone forgot to allocate a mortal wounds to his hammerheads after he rolled 1s. Did the Battlesuit commander have sense of stone, when he got shot in the face by the khytan? Greater good units CAN overwatch even if you charge a Tau unit that itself doesn’t have Greater good. A easy way to start off “focus fire” is to throw a emp grenade with a character,… Read more »

David Murr
David Murr

Great game guys! Very cool to see some more “gamey” tactics and watch on side claw it’s way back. Lawrence, I have a question about Abaddon. When you charged him in you chose to attack with the Talon of Horus and not role for Drach’nyen to not risk the mortal wound. My question: are you allowed to do that? I know they FAQ that a model must use all its attacks in combat, and the rules on Drach’nyen say every time you fight role the D6 for the extra attacks. So, if you only use the Talon, do you still… Read more »

Joseph C
Joseph C

On turn one use chaos familiar strat to give the master of possession warp time and yeet that kytan right in to the fray! Great batrep guys!

Bengt Gren
Bengt Gren

Just keep in mind that Drach’nyen is D6 attacks in addition when Abaddon attacks.

Alec Glass
Alec Glass

Wow, verry interesting game! The cultists really do make a solid core for a list, though I feel the same as you Spider, looking forward to the marines! Also interesting note on Abaddon, I’m actually not sure that you’re allowed to opt out of using Drachnyen as the wording says to roll a d6 when the bearer fights, as opposed to when they attack with that weapon – also around 1:06 Bone I think you were using Longstrike’s buffs to the hammerheads for two turns after he was dead, having them hit on 2s? Or was that something else? In… Read more »