Warhammer 40,000 Battle Report: Ravenwing vs T’au 2000pts

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Jesper77
Jesper77

Know this is an older batrep and you probably already know but the firewarriors doesn’t have to use the Ethereal’s ld of 9, it’s an option and they can use their own if they want to as the wording on the rule Failure is not an option is “May use the”. They are sneaky buggers those tau 😉

ScorpionP2C
ScorpionP2C

There is really only one word for this game “Mahoosive!!”

Moraca4
Moraca4

I know the Ravenwing Black Knights passed their morale check anyways, but they are immune to morale due to the “Inner Circle” rule on pg. 74 🙂 great game

Jacob Holmström
Jacob Holmström

Couldn’t Bone have charged with anything into the black knights, just to keep them from shooting in turn 2? Lawrence says he could just fall back and shoot for one cp, which I believe is incorrect (strat costs 2 cp and the Dark angels only had one left).

Unclefester89
Unclefester89

Hey guys. Great game so far. Isn’t the burst cannon -2 with ats or did I miss something?

Stephen Boxall

I think this was a damn good game. As for myself being a Dark Angels veteran, I don’t really rate the Dark Talons because of their lack of durability. Compare it to say an Alaitoc Eldar flier or even a Guard flier that tends to be toughness 7 and 14 wounds. Their damage output is great but they really rely on first turn. As for the end comments on the Lion and the Dark Angels in the Heresy, you try growing up on a chaos infested death world and coming out sociable! But please read Angels of Caliban. The Lion… Read more »

Andy Furniss
Andy Furniss

I’ve always wondered why Lawrence throws the dice all over the place. Now I have my answer! XD (1:23:45)

uggy
uggy

Sometimes I think that Lawrence IS trying to alarm Mr Bone.

MaxxVane
MaxxVane

Tau without at least 60 Fire warriors is not competitive, change my mind 🙂

Worldspawn

When it comes to the close combat in turn 1 you need to take more care because units in base to base contact can’t be moved to consolidate (since they must end their move closer, which they can’t due to being in base to base already) so felt like it was really messed up and when it comes to such advanced moves it’s actually quite important unlike when you just pile in 30 boyz to attack some poor guy.

Rokok
Rokok

So aggressive rolling is the secret to the Spider’s luck?!?! If I ever have the chance to play you Lawrence, I shall bring you a nice cup of calming Camomile tea…or maybe a herbal cookie…

Adam Meney
Adam Meney

1994pts of Ravenwing? It just so happens that a scout sergeant can take a storm bolter for 2pts each rounding it up nicely.

Loved the game. Thanks.

UseLess
UseLess

I can only reiterate what others have been saying. Brutal game that was over quick, but it didn’t really bother me. Still solid entertainment! Silly mistake from Bone in T1 that made quite a difference and I can only relate to that feeling he had after realizing the mistake he made (been there, done that ;). I have a question about the consolidate that Lawrence did with the bikes though, around 45:33 min. The first biker moved is used to lock in the Stormsurge and the warlord. But technically, that model wasn’t allowed to move as such, because it moved… Read more »

MichaelMusashiMarucci

Stormsurges should either be T8 (which you could argue against because of the dumb open top) or they should have a 2+ save (because riptides do, and their armour should be more durable) Also BBone, I remember a bit back when I sent you that disruption list, you have to make constant use of Neuroweb, it’s quite powerful and would have really brought stuff back from the brink with the SS getting popped. I don’t own a surge myself, but the biggest take away from this was deployment and priority. A surge can’t greater good, and he’s hard to wrap,… Read more »

Dope haircut
Dope haircut

Don’t destroyer missiles hit on 6s only? Regardless of modifiers?

Nathaniel monge
Nathaniel monge

Hey BBone! What are your thoughts on piranhas? Specifically two units of two for objective grabbing. They are really fast and can dish out some decent anti infantry fire power, but would mostly be used to sit on objectives either out of line of sight, or to drop off drones to sit on those objectives out of line of sight.

Warrynx
Warrynx

Anyone else noticed that when each player makes saving throws they read the results differently?

Lawrence nearly always says ‘Okay, I’ve saved X there’
Bone almost always says ‘Right, I’ve lost Y from the unit’

Probably a pointless observation but I wonder if that’s why Lawrence is always so chipper, sheer positive reinforcement, for himself… it’s that or constantly rolling 6s…

Bulwyf
Bulwyf

That was brutal. Bone had zero chance of winning that game with that deployment against that army. No matter what he did he’d just get wrapped and trapped, lose his troops and have no way of scoring points. That does happen sometimes when your opponent has the right list with the right map and deployment to just essentially autowin a game. Chin up Ben! It was nothing you did wrong to lose it. Napoleon himself would have lost that game.

Klas Hammarström

Amazing as always guys and entertaining! Just cried so much at 53:43 since the rule “Failure is not an option” states “MAY use the Ethereal’s Leadership characteristic instead of their own“ on a four you would have been able to get untrapped B-Bone😭

Jason Smith
Jason Smith

Laurence you’re killing me rolling 1s with the scouts to hit but forgetting you can reroll 1s to hit if you don’t move because of grim resolve. Overall great game. Another hard hitting dark angels list is the azreal, hellblaster, apothecary, ancient combo. Also the new Phobos LT with the +1 to shoot WL trait deep striking in with a 6 man plasma inceptors squad is pretty brutal.

bullyboy
bullyboy

One other thing, what Warlord Trait did you take Lawrence? Didn’t see one used and I assume you would take Brilliant Strategist that would give you a reroll and a chance to regain some CPs.

Shimbob
Shimbob

Great game chaps

bullyboy
bullyboy

Ravenwing battle report? Sorry life, you do not get to dictate my path today…..

HaggisCaliente
HaggisCaliente

Brutal game. That blob of 10 black knights is just insane with WOTDA. I know it’s been asked a million times but would love to see some deathwing added to get a bit more fluff in the list and maybe Azrael. I know it’s only an index choice but a librarian on a bike would be cool, Aversion paired with a darkshroud and also the -1 on the dark talons can be a nasty combination.

Wrexhavok
Wrexhavok

You guys always mention how you dislike doing proxy, yet you use Orikan the Diviner (Necron Character) as a basic Cryptek. Its just the one outlier I’ve never heard a justification for (likely missed it, being a fairly recent follower) nor any acknowledgement of the proxy itself. Apologies for posting this in a non-Necron Bat-rep, just found it odd a gun proxy has to be justified, whereas a character downgrade isn’t even mentioned.

Oliver Keys
Oliver Keys

Not sure about all the negative nellys in the comments but I think a mix of close (Beard and Bone’s last was a nail biter) and brutal games is a good reflection on where 40k is at the moment.

Flapdoddle
Flapdoddle

Brutal game. Would be fun to see Space Wolves vs Ravenwing – might result in the shortest video in TT history, mind.

Yann
Yann

interesting game, brutal! Careful Bone 7 is the number of nurgle… maybe deathgarde is your army after all…. 😉 Spider did I spy Dr Zeus socks? 😉

Pete

Bone – Don’t forget a lot of aura abilities are “may use” same with the Ethereal’s leadership aura, so you could have used to fire warriors base Ld.

CalibanCadet
CalibanCadet

Ace game as always. I love to see the glorious 1st Legion in action. Always worth remembering that Dark Angels infantry can reroll ones to hit if they don’t move (Grim Resolve) which would have helped the scouts in a couple of turns.

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

I like that you guys do different strength lists for each game as that is sometimes just how it goes on the tabletop.

Bardog
Bardog

Hey B-Bone, as a fellow T´au player I wanted to remind you on a little detail I always seem to forget myself while playing. 4 markerlights give your units the ability to ignore any penaltys duo to moving (advancing) and firing heavy weapons or assault weapons on that target. Which either makes velocity tracker valid again (I prefer the target lock myself) or for example enables your pathfinder, even if they moved, to still hit on 4s (or 5s against the dark shroud in your turn 1 with the second unit). Depending on your unit size it makes sene to… Read more »

Probably_Luke
Probably_Luke

you guys must have the most erratic dice in the world, its a challenge just to track where they go hahaha especially Lawrence, rolling like hes dropped his dice from orbit

Alex Andersson
Alex Andersson

Great game guys, just to provide some feedback since I have noticed you guys are getting a lot of signals in the comments regarding a number of things. It’s going great! I have been subbing for a few years now and the channel is expanding well, the armies are more plenty and more beautifull then ever before. I suspect the number of subs is growing and the lodge support will give you more financial freedom. I certainly hope Bone is getting a partnership in the company, he’s such a integral part of it now. Regarding all the feedback on what… Read more »

Urbi
Urbi

bring on the y’vahra they just look epic!

ZackAttack
ZackAttack

My biggest problem with stormsurge besides drones not being able to saviour protocol for it (theyd be broken)

Is stim injector not working on it

And

Not being able to start with the legs supports down

ZackAttack
ZackAttack

Bones you got me good “well its not really a secret anymore is it?” And spyders face just dropped. hilarious

jake diewald
jake diewald

As far as the downside of having to attack in the fight phase goes, so many people seem to forget that they don’t have to use the weapons their models are equipped with.

Every model is equipped with a generic ‘close combat weapon’ that is S user AP 0. There’s nothing stopping you from pillow fisting with each model’s attacks rather than using thunder hammers or power swords.

Optimisticpaint
Optimisticpaint

A little disturbed by the odour of the Greater Good.

Kevin
Kevin

So if bone would have gotten first turn this game would have been entirely different. With that being said is first turn to strong?

Also Bone you have enlighten me on the ways for the greater good. I’ll be putting down my first Tau list on the tabletop this weekend!

IIIXprototype
IIIXprototype

the Black knights are fearless by the way 🙂 ( inner circle )

George Fava
George Fava

Would love to see if you could figure out a way to make a mixed wing list work well (greenwing, deathwing, and ravenwing). Even if it’s a fluffier design. That’s something i’ve always struggled with being that many of the good units are so expensive points-wise. I’d be curious to see what you’d all come up with.

Balls McGee

I hope we one day get to see a Ta’unar on the board in a game! I am currently running a 2k list with one and some broadsides and crushing.

Gustav Landen
Gustav Landen

It did not matter in this game, but it easy to forget that the 4th marker light bonus makes you ignore the movement penalties so the 2nd pathfinder unit would hit on 5+ not 6+ when they fired in the first turn 🙂

submarine
submarine

Try playing a mobile tau list, some very competitive tau builds are using piranhas and devlisfish now, a static castle can be very strong but limits tactical options and will fall apart against certain match ups. If you force the dark angel player to split his forces by being less static then he loses his buffs. Plus it is much more fun playing mobile tau.

Joshua Matthews
Joshua Matthews

Bone “failure is not an option” says they my use the ethereals leadership instead of their own when taking morale meaning they don’t have to so both of these fire warriors could of run off on that roll of a 4 if you wanted

Phil
Phil

Really interesting game guys, definitely a borderline tactica

Bobabear
Bobabear

Nice to see the Dark Angels on the board and Looking farward to Tactica reports!

Fletcher Giles
Fletcher Giles

Bone – if you ever get wrapped like that again you can use the 3CP Orbital Ion Beam strat on your own units – it states ‘friend or foe’ so your fire warrior unit could’ve taken D3 mortal wounds on a 4+ to negate the wrap. I’ve used it before to get out of some sticky situations! Love the Tau batreps btw 👊🏻

Rob Willars
Rob Willars

I feel like you mix these in sometimes just to prove that you really do randomise the deployment and game type!

I enjoyed it tho, I only ever support tau when bone is playing them.