Warhammer 40,000 Battle Report: Ynnari vs Salamanders 2000pts

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InfectiousPanda
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InfectiousPanda

YEEESSSS!!!! Hellions! Bring them! I want Hellions! 😛

Adrian Cuerva
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Adrian Cuerva

Great bat rep, those bikes looked menacing. I would love to play Eldar one day!

Follows_the_Gleam
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Follows_the_Gleam

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Erik Tasker
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Tabletop Tactics, AKA, BoneGetsTriggered.tv

CPT-BIRDSEYE
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CPT-BIRDSEYE

Mr spider,

Do you think its possible to make a list that has teeth, with all 3 Ynnari characters ?
I know off the bat the yncarne’s points could be better spent else where but the model man its too cool to leave out!

but when i do try i find my self with not alot of anything and i mean like next to nothing hahaha

Paneki
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Paneki

Bone you take salamanders then don’t use their chapter tactic.

Jason Finfrock
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Jason Finfrock

Don’t know if it came up but it look a like bone forgot the extra AP for storm of fire

Hobbyvices
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Hobbyvices

Lawrence is absolutely correct in the interpretation of the bonus Warlord Trait stratagem. Pick a non-named character and that’s it! Don’t need other factions or other shenanigans, working as intended!

Also, did I miss why Bone didn’t shoot overwatch on the initial charge (35m mark)?

Drake
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Drake

Hi guys, great batrep as always. Bone, don’t forget that Salamanders get a free rerole to hit and wound per unit, this includes when they die and can shoot with the banner.

Imperium Gaming
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Imperium Gaming

Great game guys. Bone, I know it’s naff but as you keep rolling 2 to hit maybe do the chapter master stratagem just for the re-rolls? Good game though. Maybe sneak Lawrence some ex-lax just to keep him on his toes 😂

Connor Mac Cormick
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Connor Mac Cormick

I think the whole needing all 3 reborn factions is for the +1 attacks stratagems. Don’t have the book on me at the moment as I am moving but the way the wording is you need a reborn harlequin detachment, reborn craftworld, and reborn drukhari detachment to be able to give one unit in each detachment another attack. I remember that the spider used it to give 3 troupes plus one attack.

Bulwyf
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Bulwyf

With this mission there’s no way the SM win this game regardless of the typical Spider dice rolls. All you have to do is use the Ynnari greater speed to objective camp and tie up the shooting. Games like this show just how badly all SM armies need a boost to be more competitive.

camurphy117
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camurphy117

Another great game – nice to see the repulsors getting more than one turn of shooting off! Also that CP re-roll… OH MATE!!
See you at heat 4, Spider!

Lemquy
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Lemquy

Good game boys, don’t forget Eliminators when building Primaris lists for minimum points you get great board control.

Kiploners
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Kiploners

i cant wait for the TTT team to get good with the Yncarne. So many evil genius plays to try out!

you can bait any alpha level fire support units as an auto teleport out of combat! and if they don’t go for it, then your opponent cant fire at any unit you have in case they wipe it out and the yncarne gets to ‘reset’!

It may be over priced but i cant wait for you guys to nail some 300IQ plays with that beast!

Huw Tindall
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Huw Tindall

Bone could you have moved that objective near the scum xenos lines on to the rock? That would have stuffed those troops who were holding it as they don’t have the Fly keyword to get on top of the sheer rock face?

Jonathan Philo
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Jonathan Philo

What dragons list would beat the Yannari bikers. How would you break their speed

jbouchard
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jbouchard

1:08:45….I’m sorry BBone 🙁

Marcello Genovese
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Marcello Genovese

Shard net and impaler attacks are all at once mate. Nothing says you can’t put all your attacks in with the impaler, it is just telling you that the weapon gives an additional attack, because otherwise wych weapons would be awful compared to normal knives. Also, the opponent needs to beat you when doing no escape, so they are trapped even on ties, meaning if you roll at least a 3 they cannot win. Wych cult is my jam 😀 Got tired of kabal and coven over the years, so now I mostly play cult. If you really want to… Read more »

Limbo365
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Limbo365

Bone I honestly don’t know how you don’t beat Lawrence to death……

Those rolls are getting ridiculous at this point

Sherman Jones
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Sherman Jones

You get your re-roll for salamanders on overwatch, and on the banner. It doesn’t help often but every once in a while a 1 turns into a 6 😉

Philip Leo
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Philip Leo

Sadly I think the only way marines win that one is if they win literally every single roll for objective movement. That Eldar list was going to outscore so heavily on the points in that mission barring some extremely unlucky rolls by Lawrence on his saves, and let’s face it, that’s never going to happen vs the Bone :(. It might have been good to be way more aggressive with the Repulsors and their movement with the fly keyword and resistance to charge. Fly them up the board for control maybe. I see people play them too much like regular… Read more »

Michael
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Michael

Great battle report as always! @Bone: don’t know if it wold have turned the tide of the game, but for the next play with the dragons,I maybe some new ideas? CP usage: 3 CP for the chaptermaster is really a great investment (was already mentioned in another comment) * I don’t think the 4 CP (in an 8 CP army) for vigilusand 3 veterans is worth the points vs. the chaptermaster for 3 CP * with 5 CP left, you can then reserve 2 CP for prepared positions (if needed), and 2 CP for the auspex scan which would have… Read more »

Brett Pettitt
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Brett Pettitt

Although not in reference to this game, but has implications to others, reading the schemes of war in white dwarf, it replaces maelstrom missions. Wouldn’t that make it a normal maelstrom mission with a change of how the cards are generated – reference to the first paragraph directly under the title Schemes of war.

At least that is how it reads to me. When you get a few minutes (know you are really busy,) feel free to have a look and agree/disagree as you see fit.

stephen-sayers
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stephen-sayers

Great batrep guys!

Ralldis
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Ralldis

Is it possible to chromecast this to my TV?

Tropic Thunder
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Tropic Thunder

I enjoyed this batrep immensely. Good to see Ynnari rolled out again. I myself am looking forward to running my inaugural list of them in the coming weeks. Lawrence, I think you missed out on a great tactic to keep the Yncarne alive much longer. As soon as another unit on the board is destroyed, the Yncarne can teleport away. When you had the Yncarne down to 2 wounds remaining and Bone destroyed that first Ravager, the Yncarne could’ve beat feet and teleported to that position in your backfield, keeping him alive and protected by the Character targeting rule. It… Read more »

Sherman Jones
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Sherman Jones

Love the Jetbikes and the InCRANE!, LOL

Obiguzkenobi
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Is there a way to download the batrep so I can watch offline?

Aaron Rogers
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Lawrence, I know you said you wanted to get raiders for the Wych Cult side of the Druchari. But have you ever thought of going with Wracks and Grotesques for the Coven side?

Maeglin
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Maeglin

Great game, Bone I think you needed to be more aggressive with the Repulsors. With fly they can charge in to contest objectives.

Lawrence I’m sure you don’t need the named Ynnari characters to play a detachment, you simply declare it to be Ynnari. My White Dwarf isn’t to hand though.

David Garneau
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David Garneau

Great game as always guys. B-Bone what can anyone say about dice the way they treat you. Why does it seem everyone wants to run Primaris only lists? I win with Dark Angels on a consistent basis by running a mix of regulars and Primaris. Dev squads are invaluable. I think Redemtors are a bad choice. Ven rifleman dreads are better.

Danielpattenden
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Danielpattenden

Laurence how do you feel about mass scorpions as ynnari?

Andrew Carter
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I think Bone has hit the nail on the head for why I hate the new Ynnari rules, they are increadibly boring and the army does absolutely nothing that the codexes don’t already do, and do it better. I’m very much of the opinion that a system like the old Kohrn Daemonkin Blood Tithe would have worked really well for them and forced a very different style of play from the army. Instead it’s Aeldari Soup -1. Rules note, you don’t get the always fights first and +1 to hit from Strength From Death, it’s one or the other depending… Read more »

Momento Mori
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Momento Mori

You’ve got to sit up and take notice when a genuine comedy trope materialises in someone’s create output. I crack up everytime bone re-rolls his zero to reveal another zero; cue Spider’s delight, Bone’s silent convulsion, Blunt cut into normal gameplay. I enjoy it everytime. (1.22)

Kevin
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Kevin

What’s the picture cover of the white dwarf with this new malestrom mission?

Jacob Whittaker
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Jacob Whittaker

i honestly am just considering buying the ynnari for that model. i mean it is awesome, ill more then likely never use it with my drukhari but its a hell of a looker!

Jacob Whittaker
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Jacob Whittaker

hey guys!
bone, you are a trooper mate! have a bundy rum and get em next time! haha
do you guys plan on doing a Tactica in the near future?

Brian Cortese
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Brian Cortese

It makes me sad for Mr. Bonar… he does imo nearly everything right and there is just this consistent disparity in the rolling.

I stand with B Bone!!!

Zelun
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Zelun

Spider rolls 4 sixes on 5 dice, neither of them either comment… What a weird kind of normal…

orcspit
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orcspit

Just a point, when you move the markers for they cannot end on a model. So the first time when you moved it away from the marines and under the Yncarne that wouldn’t have worked. I don’t think it mattered much in the game but its a rule everyone seems to miss on this mission.

Megatron
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Megatron

Meh…….Love you both but this is getting old……..Just MHO. . . Just going to add this from my “replies” below… —————————————————————————– I think people are misunderstanding (I’m not surprised) my “friendly criticism” of a service I pay for because IT IS high quality and I DO ENJOY, other wise I wouldn’t keep paying for it. But if all the episodes are one sided slaughter fests…I tend to perk up and take notice, making me want to share my criticism of something I pay for. It’s not anything negative or malicious. I also understand fully well how busy they may be… Read more »

Balls McGee
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Man. Marines just feel so bad. So many other armies could have brought that same firepower or more and taken double and then some the CP.

David Scott
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David Scott

Awww… marines lost…

intimeforchristmas@gmail.com
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intimeforchristmas@gmail.com

I dunno, I think everyone is a little off base on the new Ynnari. I have been playing them a lot and I have some thoughts. Are they better than any of the other dedicated faction codexes? No Are they a top tier faction? No Did GW do the right thing for the game? O yeah Are they still really cool?? Heck yeah! I don’t think we should try to build them as a fast biker army with no CP, really all the other codex armies are already a fast alpha strike army that is well….just plan better out of… Read more »

Jake Logan
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Jake Logan

Great stuff as always! Felt like the Dragons were missing some punch – which is odd!

Warp5p1d3r
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Warp5p1d3r

bone looks all fried out. lawrence you need to get someone in on you level to play.

Alex Andersson
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Alex Andersson

Great work as always guys, the primaris loadout needs some love though. It felt like watching an index army almost (not at all bitter about the SM-rules). But there are some things that could be done and some interesting routes that could be taken, I for one think the Dragons need to adopt a converted new primaris captain which approaches the art of war eerily similar to Pedro Kantor, since hes an absolute Boss of a character that also has access to very interesting rules and stratagems for being a space marine. I envision the long lost Captain Livyathan, Tai-Pan… Read more »

Archmike
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Archmike

Yncarn pronounced like Incarnate because that’s basically what it is ^_^

rynar
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rynar

Hey, awsome game again. Inspired by you guys I’m building my 10 year old son a primaris army using the Salamanders rules called the Emerald Dragons 😉 (they will use the Black Dragons symbol and the Salamanders flame because they don’t use squad markings) I also think the repulsor is a bad choise at the moment, it is as expensive as the repulsor executioner and it is a transport choise meaning you throw almost 600 pts of unit choise into the bin regarding gaining CP’s (where you would need one HS and one HQ choise to get one extra) And… Read more »